Help me find a hw synth for my daughter
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Distorted Horizon Distorted Horizon https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=392076
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- 3882 posts since 17 Jan, 2017 from Planet of cats
Ah almost forgot.. Akai mpk249 midi keyboard. Has keys and pads and works with mpc software, comes with few virtual synths. So your girl could really make songs.
- KVRAF
- 2752 posts since 15 Feb, 2017 from a worn out vinyl groove
Is that a reminder to self...donkey tugger wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 10:59 am In this day and age it's ok to admit you are buying a sinthesiser for yourself.
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- KVRAF
- 4751 posts since 22 Nov, 2012
@OP my original thought was a mini brute, something that can introduce her to the concepts of synthesis and what everything does. You want poly tho. might have a look at the new microfreak. 4 voice paraphonic and they are pushing it on the 20 somethings pretty hard. personally, sounds like you want more of something like one of the new rolands. https://www.roland.com/us/products/jd-xa/
depending on space and finances of course. You seem to have a lot of desires at a smaller price point. Something used, or a good controller and software might be a better way to go. good luck.
depending on space and finances of course. You seem to have a lot of desires at a smaller price point. Something used, or a good controller and software might be a better way to go. good luck.
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
Can the mini freak do piano?Dasheesh wrote: ↑Sat May 18, 2019 12:31 pm @OP my original thought was a mini brute, something that can introduce her to the concepts of synthesis and what everything does. You want poly tho. might have a look at the new microfreak. 4 voice paraphonic and they are pushing it on the 20 somethings pretty hard. personally, sounds like you want more of something like one of the new rolands. https://www.roland.com/us/products/jd-xa/
depending on space and finances of course. You seem to have a lot of desires at a smaller price point. Something used, or a good controller and software might be a better way to go. good luck.
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- KVRAF
- 2752 posts since 15 Feb, 2017 from a worn out vinyl groove
I'd like to throw another into the mix...
The Waldorf Blofeld.. polyphonic.
It comes as complete unit(ie with keyboard) or desktop and add something like the Arturia keystep (keyboard and sequencer)
It might seem a little complex at first but manageable and lets not forget how tuned into tech the kids are today.
Another thing to consider is longevity... I think this will keep her enthralled for years.
Just another unit into the mix... best of luck
The Waldorf Blofeld.. polyphonic.
It comes as complete unit(ie with keyboard) or desktop and add something like the Arturia keystep (keyboard and sequencer)
It might seem a little complex at first but manageable and lets not forget how tuned into tech the kids are today.
Another thing to consider is longevity... I think this will keep her enthralled for years.
Just another unit into the mix... best of luck
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- KVRAF
- 9123 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
Get an IK UNO analog, and this years $200 61 key Yamaha rompler,
to cover the bread&butter sounds, drum machine, and basic sequencer.
The UNO arpegiator can play the Yamaha sounds,
the Yamaha will play the UNO sounds, so she can record
some riffs and runs as her skills develope.
Some decent headphones/speakers will help morale.
Plus, the UNO travels extremely well, batteries etc
Cheers
to cover the bread&butter sounds, drum machine, and basic sequencer.
The UNO arpegiator can play the Yamaha sounds,
the Yamaha will play the UNO sounds, so she can record
some riffs and runs as her skills develope.
Some decent headphones/speakers will help morale.
Plus, the UNO travels extremely well, batteries etc
Cheers
- KVRAF
- 3390 posts since 5 Mar, 2004 from Gold Coast Australia
If you are open to used gear: how about something in the MC-303/505 range (or similar from Yamaha) as they covered all the usual bases (and not doubt Basses)? Otherwise, I'd also say Roland's JD-Xi or Gaia (altho I worry on how accessible the GM sounds really are) or a Juno Di or the like. Casio made a rather cool foray back into that space recently with the XW-P1, but probably hard to find around now.
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jacqueslacouth jacqueslacouth https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=48379
- KVRian
- 1149 posts since 18 Nov, 2004
You did mention that she would like to learn to play keys and a lot of the ideas above are more on learning simple synthesis stuff. I have two teen daughters and taught High School for many years. For your budget, I would suggest a used Yamaha MOXF 6 or a Roland Fantom XA...something along those lines. They have a lot of bread and butter sounds and plenty of synthy sounds suitable for Hip Hop, sequencing and pretty functional arps. The Roland even has sampling and a basic 4x4 set of pads for triggering beats. For a kid that age, they pack a lot of musical fun into one device and will avoid the possible frustrations of trying to learn the nerdy aspects of full blown, techy synths. It's important to remember the attention span of millenials in your purchase. If they can't get something "lit" sounding in the first 5 minutes it will just end up gathering dust.
- KVRAF
- 8814 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
I would also consider what is more important, learning to play or sound design. I think for that age learning to play is more important, it should be polyphonic then... $ 500 would also mean to get it used if it should be of good quality...
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- KVRAF
- 2982 posts since 9 Dec, 2008
I've got synths/samplers that my kids mess with but gonna get a full-size digital piano so they can learn keys. In the process I can improve my playing too. Win-win!
I had previously convinced myself to get a miniKorg 'for the kids' but nope, want them to learn keys.
I had previously convinced myself to get a miniKorg 'for the kids' but nope, want them to learn keys.
- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 1487 posts since 14 Jul, 2013 from Sweden
There are a lot of good suggestions and considerations here.
No, I don't mind used stuff.
I try a bit to think as if I was in her age. What would be "cool", what would be easy to understand and use. What would feel to complicated and boring, and, maybe, what would look "cool".
Sound wise I think all synths mentioned are fine.
She seems to like LED:s
Normal sized keys, yes.
Polyphony - yes.
An analog / rompler hybrid sounds good.
I don't think a MIDI controller is ideal. Since it requires a host / DAW and there it might start to get a little complicated.
Later on one could always use the synth as a controller in a DAW.
No, I don't mind used stuff.
I try a bit to think as if I was in her age. What would be "cool", what would be easy to understand and use. What would feel to complicated and boring, and, maybe, what would look "cool".
Sound wise I think all synths mentioned are fine.
She seems to like LED:s
Normal sized keys, yes.
Polyphony - yes.
An analog / rompler hybrid sounds good.
I don't think a MIDI controller is ideal. Since it requires a host / DAW and there it might start to get a little complicated.
Later on one could always use the synth as a controller in a DAW.
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colonel_mustard colonel_mustard https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=439842
- KVRist
- 124 posts since 24 Apr, 2019
Totally get your reasoning here.
You know her best and how she gets on with techy stuff etc. We don’t want to put up extra barriers or scare her off. It’s discouraging enough already for girls, with the culture as it is.
It’d be good to get a girl’s perspective!
As for what’s cool, that’s a tricky one. I’m not down with the cool kids, although I suspect that a fair few of them covet Ableton Push 2 controllers and Digitakts. Not what you’re asking about, though.
I think whatever you get her, you’re clearly trying. I’m sure you’ll make a fair choice, and she’s a lucky girl whether she appreciates it or not. This whole thread’s an expression of paternal love, and it warms my heart.
You know her best and how she gets on with techy stuff etc. We don’t want to put up extra barriers or scare her off. It’s discouraging enough already for girls, with the culture as it is.
It’d be good to get a girl’s perspective!
As for what’s cool, that’s a tricky one. I’m not down with the cool kids, although I suspect that a fair few of them covet Ableton Push 2 controllers and Digitakts. Not what you’re asking about, though.
I think whatever you get her, you’re clearly trying. I’m sure you’ll make a fair choice, and she’s a lucky girl whether she appreciates it or not. This whole thread’s an expression of paternal love, and it warms my heart.
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thecontrolcentre thecontrolcentre https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=76240
- KVRAF
- 35098 posts since 27 Jul, 2005 from the wilds of wanny
Maybe something like a second hand Korg Triton? They go for not too much these days. 61 keys, polyphonic ...
https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/Korg-Triton-Le ... 3484104210
https://www.ebay.co.uk/p/Korg-Triton-Le ... 3484104210
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- addled muppet weed
- 105553 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
have you asked her what she would like?sfd wrote: ↑Sun May 19, 2019 12:15 pm There are a lot of good suggestions and considerations here.
No, I don't mind used stuff.
I try a bit to think as if I was in her age. What would be "cool", what would be easy to understand and use. What would feel to complicated and boring, and, maybe, what would look "cool".
Sound wise I think all synths mentioned are fine.
She seems to like LED:s
Normal sized keys, yes.
Polyphony - yes.
An analog / rompler hybrid sounds good.
I don't think a MIDI controller is ideal. Since it requires a host / DAW and there it might start to get a little complicated.
Later on one could always use the synth as a controller in a DAW.
as in what shes interested in learning?
it may be shes more interested in the engineering side of things, than the music creation.
its a fun journey to be on for sure, maybe a trip to a local store together, see what bits attract her.
might be she just wants a mic if she enjoys singing