Which DAW for sketching out ideas fast (and easy)

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Schmidi
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202 posts since 23 Apr, 2011 from Seattle WA

Post Fri May 17, 2019 5:18 am

I'm not sure what kind of music you do, but I would suggest something that is NOT a DAW as quick inspiration.

Software: SugarBytes Egoist, NI Trk01, Arturia Spark, FXPansion Geist.

Hardware: Roland JDXI, Korg Electribe EM's or some Volcas

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crimsonwarlock
KVRAF
2280 posts since 18 Apr, 2001 from The Netherlands

Re: Which DAW for sketching out ideas fast (and easy)

Post Fri May 17, 2019 8:08 am

Schmidi wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 5:18 am
I'm not sure what kind of music you do, but I would suggest something that is NOT a DAW as quick inspiration.

Software: SugarBytes Egoist, NI Trk01, Arturia Spark, FXPansion Geist.

Hardware: Roland JDXI, Korg Electribe EM's or some Volcas
I think you misunderstood. It's not about getting inspired. I've recently got a Komplete Kontrol MkII keyboard and have integrated my main software synths to the point that it behaves pretty much like a hardware synth.

I need a setup to quickly work with the ideas I'm coming up with and make rough sketches for a project.
CrimsonWarlock aka TechnoGremlin, using Reaper and a fine selection of freeware plugins.

Ragnarök VST-synthesizer co-creator with Full Bucket

Schmidi
KVRist
202 posts since 23 Apr, 2011 from Seattle WA

Re: Which DAW for sketching out ideas fast (and easy)

Post Fri May 17, 2019 8:46 am

Ah yep, I skimmed it. I agree with others that a pattern type sequencer might generate ideas well. I run an Akai Advance/VIP in Akai MPC software and really like that pattern flow.

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vurt
addled muppet weed
54506 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass

Re: Which DAW for sketching out ideas fast (and easy)

Post Fri May 17, 2019 9:09 am

crimsonwarlock wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 2:15 am
BONES wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 2:07 am
Peter, WTF! I figured you were dead or something.
I thought the same of you :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
BONES wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 2:07 am
Do you still have your Orion license? You'll never find anything better than that and you know it.
Just checked and yes I still have my license. Just no idea how to get the latest version. Is there even a 64bit version now?
hey there!

yep, you know orion is perfect for sketching with virtual instruments :tu:
its once you need any audio work doing its shite :lol:

SoundPorn
KVRian
921 posts since 24 Jul, 2018

Re: Which DAW for sketching out ideas fast (and easy)

Post Fri May 17, 2019 9:23 am

I use Waveform 10 for sketching and Reaper although to be honest I've been thinking about just grabbing Studio One off Splice.

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inkwarp
KVRian
782 posts since 16 Jan, 2012 from UK

Re: Which DAW for sketching out ideas fast (and easy)

Post Fri May 17, 2019 10:21 am

FL Studio
really fast way to put ideas down...

reggie1979
KVRAF
1879 posts since 26 Nov, 2018

Re: Which DAW for sketching out ideas fast (and easy)

Post Fri May 17, 2019 10:35 am

SoundPorn wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 9:23 am
I use Waveform 10 for sketching and Reaper although to be honest I've been thinking about just grabbing Studio One off Splice.
Studio One is great, it has some kinda scratch track thingy which might help the OP.

machinesworking
KVRAF
1891 posts since 15 Aug, 2003 from seattle

Re: Which DAW for sketching out ideas fast (and easy)

Post Fri May 17, 2019 5:44 pm

What you describe is Live's domain.

The thing that keeps me coming back to it is the way you can set up patterns in the Session View to oscillate between parts of a song. It loads super quick, and it's simple for basic things.

It's a good companion DAW for complex full featured DAWs like Reaper, DP10, Cubase etc. Too bad they priced themselves into the boutique market...

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Distorted Horizon
KVRAF
2742 posts since 17 Jan, 2017 from Planet of cats

Re: Which DAW for sketching out ideas fast (and easy)

Post Fri May 17, 2019 9:43 pm

machinesworking wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 5:44 pm
What you describe is Live's domain.

The thing that keeps me coming back to it is the way you can set up patterns in the Session View to oscillate between parts of a song. It loads super quick, and it's simple for basic things.
Or Bitwig...

heks
KVRist
269 posts since 28 Oct, 2002

Re: Which DAW for sketching out ideas fast (and easy)

Post Sat May 18, 2019 4:29 am

Nice to see you around again Mr warlock, I used Orion for years (until a lots of my 64 bit plugins kept crashed it) I have found MuLab closest to Orion for that easy of , well , just getting going . It's also reminiscent of early Orions development, as just one person is developing it.

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BONES
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9033 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle

Re: Which DAW for sketching out ideas fast (and easy)

Post Sat May 18, 2019 5:00 am

We've had the odd annoyance with 64 bit plugins in Orion, like if you have Analog Lab running from the first bar of a song it crashes Orion, but 99.9% of the time they run just as well as anything else. Our issues with Orion are all about external gear, which it was never very good at anyway.
machinesworking wrote:
Fri May 17, 2019 5:44 pm
What you describe is Live's domain.

The thing that keeps me coming back to it is the way you can set up patterns in the Session View to oscillate between parts of a song. It loads super quick, and it's simple for basic things.

It's a good companion DAW for complex full featured DAWs like Reaper, DP10, Cubase etc. Too bad they priced themselves into the boutique market...
Live and Bitwig are nothing in comparison to Orion for that kind of thing. Neither are anywhere near as intuitive and simple, or as quick to get ideas out of your head.
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neverenoughfunk
KVRian
811 posts since 6 Feb, 2004

Re: Which DAW for sketching out ideas fast (and easy)

Post Sat May 18, 2019 5:04 am

Propellerheads Reason is the ideal sketch pad...

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KVRAF
4225 posts since 2 Dec, 2004 from North Wales

Re: Which DAW for sketching out ideas fast (and easy)

Post Sat May 18, 2019 5:11 am

Bigwig is pretty uncluttered and fast, little need for menu diving and a one screen interface that lets you do most basic tasks without ever having to look at another window. Their pop up browser is also a time saver for auditioning sounds and loops fats in context and I also find saved racks that accomplish standard tasks useful. Clips (with in clip editing) and linear arranger on the same page is handy for dropping an arrangement live.

If your not building with clips and loops Studio One is also pretty fast and as was mentioned and has an everything on one page view, scratchpad is pretty useful.

I have also found MPC Studio 2 to be very fast if you are familiar with MPC workflow and it has the benefit also having linear tracks for vocals etc.
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Aloysius
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25050 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from another dimension

Re: Which DAW for sketching out ideas fast (and easy)

Post Sat May 18, 2019 5:18 am

If you are new to Reaper, you could spend some time learning how it works. You'll be sketching out ideas fast (and easy) in no time. Much easier than learning two applications at once.
Hi-de-Hi!

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Distorted Horizon
KVRAF
2742 posts since 17 Jan, 2017 from Planet of cats

Re: Which DAW for sketching out ideas fast (and easy)

Post Sat May 18, 2019 5:38 am

Aloysius wrote:
Sat May 18, 2019 5:18 am
Much easier than learning two applications at once.
I use 4 daws :oops:

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