I would also be interested in that.
@Jancivil: I hope i won’t be using one synth for the rest of my life. It’s more i don’t want to waste time learning one synth than finding out there’s something way better
Do you think Rapid could replace Avenger?generaldiomedes wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 10:02 amSome may disagree, but Hip Hop and EDM really aren't Zebra's strengths. For that you would do even better with Hive if u-He is your thing.
Omnisphere is going to fulfill those genre needs much much easier, although for Hip Hop I'm sure you will also end up using a lot of samples which can be played in your DAW's sampler or audio track directly, no synth required. It also is a bit pricey. For that money you can get Komplete.
Too bad about Avenger on Mac, that would be my recommendation, although the packs are expensive.
Anyhow, years from now I guarantee you won't be using just one synth.
ZebraHZ with Rapid is one of my most frequent synth combinations. I find ZebraHZ has a darker, more analogue character; while Rapid is cleaner, brighter, more digital sounding, at least to my ears although that's speaking very broadly and generally.Igirl93 wrote: ↑Tue Apr 23, 2019 1:04 pm...
For my first synth iam leaning towards Rapid now...And then get me Zebra3 once it comes out. But iam still undecided. Just Rapid sounds so good but I hear it goes on Sale a couple of times so might as well wait now.
Or just get me Rapid and ZebraHz and call it a day.
They are similar. I own Avenger but only demo'd Rapid. From what I can tell Avenger has more wave shaping abilities, so it can do dubby sounds a bit better, but for trancey sounds they are probably even.
Rapid is around 600 presets deep it says on site that ship with it, but that's not many. I know Predator 2 comes with over 6000 presets. Does Avenger come with whopping amounts or just over 1000 like it says on plugin boutique or do you have to get the expansions if you don't sound designgeneraldiomedes wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 4:55 amThey are similar. I own Avenger but only demo'd Rapid. From what I can tell Avenger has more wave shaping abilities, so it can do dubby sounds a bit better, but for trancey sounds they are probably even.
It shows me 936 presets in the browser for the factory set. But its about quality, not quantity .. Avengers factory presets are def quality and cover a lot of bases (not to mention basses).twal wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 11:00 amRapid is around 600 presets deep it says on site that ship with it, but that's not many. I know Predator 2 comes with over 6000 presets. Does Avenger come with whopping amounts or just over 1000 like it says on plugin boutique or do you have to get the expansions if you don't sound design
Funny how opinions differ... I think Zebra is one of the very best synths to learn synthesis on. I think Zebra is worth the money just as a learning tool it is so good.
Oh dear. No, no, no. That's like someone saying "hey, I think synth music is cool, how do I get started?" and pointing them at a modular system. Overwhelming.PieBerger wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 12:10 amI agree to some extent, maybe not a very first synth, something like RePro or one your DAWs bundled synths, just to get a handle of the very basics, but after that Zebra wouldn't be a massive step up imo. It's one of the easiest to use "big do-it-all synths" on the market, due to it's flexible/scalable wysiwyg, one-page (kind of) architecture. Simple VA patches are still very easy to setup, with minimal menu-diving and tabbing and because it's scalable you can ramp up the complexity at your own pace.
Ha! Perhaps. I do have my niggles with it. (...chief among them the weird way it manages wavetables or samples scanning; it's not obvious where that's controlled... like, "where's the sample start knob?") The intro videos explain everything, though, so after you sit through those ... it's a well-designed tool. (I would argue that there is more value in having an elegant workflow than having an obvious one, every time. Avenger's interface is elegant.) For me, at least (and, yes, this is always subjective), there is no synth that screams "tweak me!" as loudly as Avenger does, and it's a joy to just drag and drop modulations* and the MM is very clear and super-powerful at the same time. And, man, the bajillion ways that you can jiggle a waveform in VPS ... it's breath-taking. Single most powerful oscillator section I've ever seen, *ever*. I'm a fan. ...I just really really really REALLY (!) wish it wasn't marketed to the Tranceheads as this "dance-floor ready" megasynth. It's a creative tool, not another hypersaw-laiden Virus** clone! Infuriating.
If he his starting, then advsing him something as expensive as Omnisphere (which price can only be justified by the sample libraries in it, which he may or may not value) is absurd. In terms of synthesis, DIVA will offer him much more, with its "mix and match" system, where he can try several kinds of oscillators, several kinds of filters, several kinds of envelopes, etc. FOR LESS THAN HALF THE PRICEIntrospective wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2019 3:57 amGiven the OP's tone, though, it sounds like he has SOME idea of how synths work, so I'm guessing he's at a early intermediate level (couldn't be much more than that or he'd own a few already). I was definitely making that assumption in my post. In that case, Diva or Omnisphere are still on top.