Reason 10.3 is out ...and it's awesome!
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- KVRist
- 243 posts since 17 Jun, 2012 from East Coast US
After the update I'm experiencing MASSIVE improvements in performance...Especially in larger projects and ones using lots of VI's. As a matter of fact im getting better performance now in Reason than in Studio One, Cubase, or FL studio using the same VST's which is crazy. Reaper is still performance king but Reason is the most fun to work inside of so this performance boost is stellar in my opinion. I'm on windows 10 with a modest I5 8400 for what its worth.
Windows 10 PC. Reason. Cubase. Waveform. Reaper. Studio One Pro. Epiphone Les Paul Pro II. Nektar Panorama t4. Yamaha RBX Bass. Faderport 2. Eris E5 Monitors. SSL2 Interface. Audient Evo 4. AKG C214. Aston Origin. MXL 990.
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- KVRAF
- 4441 posts since 27 Jul, 2004
Oh, ok...THE INTRANCER wrote: ↑Thu Apr 18, 2019 9:35 pm You'll be asking xbitz these questions then because these are his results...
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- KVRAF
- 2875 posts since 28 Jan, 2004 from Da Nang, Vietnam
UI is still slow as molasses on my MacBook 2018 running 10.14. If anything it seems a bit worse. Dropping to low res mode helps a bit but I don't have these issues on Bitwig, Logic or Live.
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- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
Oh, don't be like that. Most people understand that 10.3 is what 9.5 should've been but wasn't for VSTs, but we're still glad we got there. It's sort of like swapping a CPU for a model that's 2 generations younger for free
What sort of bugs me more, is that the alleged reason why RE performance has improved isn't the same as for VSTs (they still run on 64 samples regardless of audio buffer settings). It's supposedly because of "general optimisations and code refactoring" which really should've been just done ages ago, because Props have 100% control over the environment
But enough criticism. Let's celebrate
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- KVRian
- 729 posts since 3 May, 2018
Don't get me wrong, I'm glad and hopeful that v11 is something I'd upgrade to.antic604 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 5:55 amOh, don't be like that. Most people understand that 10.3 is what 9.5 should've been but wasn't for VSTs, but we're still glad we got there. It's sort of like swapping a CPU for a model that's 2 generations younger for free
What sort of bugs me more, is that the alleged reason why RE performance has improved isn't the same as for VSTs (they still run on 64 samples regardless of audio buffer settings). It's supposedly because of "general optimisations and code refactoring" which really should've been just done ages ago, because Props have 100% control over the environment
But enough criticism. Let's celebrate
However I've been a Reason fannie and constructive criticizer long enough to see behind the veil -- Props have a history of delaying or out outright stating they won't add necessary things, then adding them when their customers have damn near given up.
Years of no Audio in their DAW... then added "Omg greatest ever!"
Years of no VST in their DAW... then added "Omg greatest ever!"
Poor performance in their DAW... then added "Omg greatest ever!"
The problem is there's a whole lot of X missing in their DAW, some of which a vast majority of their customers have been asking for forever, like all the prior examples.
I get it though, and am still fannie enough to stick around.
Have you tried Vital?
- KVRAF
- 23287 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
I totally love Reason, but yeah, there's really some important basics missing. My hope is on V11 too.
"Preamps have literally one job: when you turn up the gain, it gets louder." Jamcat, talking about presmp-emulation plugins.
- KVRAF
- 2338 posts since 28 Feb, 2015
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- KVRAF
- 2338 posts since 28 Feb, 2015
There are a whole lot of X missing in other DAWs that Reason have, as well. Why do Reason need to have everything all other DAWs have, when other DAWs do not have all the features Reason has?
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- KVRAF
- 6113 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America
Good to hear performance was improved. I’m still waiting for the GUI to be properly rescaled. Haven’t upgraded since version 7 as a result of this utterly ignored issue. I’m not even running on a retina display and it bothers me how small the rack devices are. I will certainly not upgrade if they finally scale it up and replace all the lovely design with flat mimalist bullshit...
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- KVRAF
- 23287 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
starflakeprj wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:33 pmThere are a whole lot of X missing in other DAWs that Reason have, as well. Why do Reason need to have everything all other DAWs have, when other DAWs do not have all the features Reason has?
It's about absolute basics that each and all of the other DAWs have.
"Preamps have literally one job: when you turn up the gain, it gets louder." Jamcat, talking about presmp-emulation plugins.
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- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
Like what for example?jens wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:09 pmstarflakeprj wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:33 pmThere are a whole lot of X missing in other DAWs that Reason have, as well. Why do Reason need to have everything all other DAWs have, when other DAWs do not have all the features Reason has?
It's about absolute basics that each and all of the other DAWs have.
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- KVRian
- 729 posts since 3 May, 2018
Like the countless ones I creatively talked about over in RT that I won't waste my time putting any more thought into, as well as the countless feature threads that still pop up every month or so - from the death by 1000 cuts to all the more recent ones.antic604 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 2:51 pmLike what for example?jens wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 1:09 pmstarflakeprj wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2019 12:33 pmThere are a whole lot of X missing in other DAWs that Reason have, as well. Why do Reason need to have everything all other DAWs have, when other DAWs do not have all the features Reason has?
It's about absolute basics that each and all of the other DAWs have.
Just one example around here everyone keeps screaming about 4k assets or scalable gui, which I think is a complete waste of time, but its something neverending that keeps popping up.
Anyway Antic you are on these forums enough that I know you don't need me to point those threads out to you. Maybe Starflake could use some personal research, but I don't think you do.
Have you tried Vital?
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- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
He's talking about "absolute basics" and of those all I can think of are track folders and automation curves, but - to be frank - Pro Tools still doesn't have the former and Cubase only got the latter in v10...
- KVRAF
- 2338 posts since 28 Feb, 2015
What Reason lacks comparing to other DAWs it's making up for in creativity and modularity.
= I'm having much more fun in Reason than in any other DAW, despite its lacking of "basic features".
= I'm having much more fun in Reason than in any other DAW, despite its lacking of "basic features".
i9-10900K | 128GB DDR4 | RTX 3090 | Arturia AudioFuse/KeyLab mkII/SparkLE | PreSonus ATOM/ATOM SQ | Studio One | Reason | Bitwig Studio | Reaper | Renoise | FL Studio | ~900 VSTs | 300+ REs