Hi guys, here from Argentina.
This is my first post, but i hope not the last one.
The reason that motivates me to open this new topic, is about the sound design of DETROIT TECHNO.
Recently, i heared a song of DJEDJOTRONIC that keeped me obsessed about the sounds.
Here's the link of the song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3j7jjBBWRc
So, my questions:
1. How to recreate (on VST) that techno string sound that appears in 0:01
2. Any VST that has that preset?
What synth (VST) should i get to recreate that style of string
Hope i get the right answers, thanks anyway.
Detroit techno string style
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- KVRian
- 629 posts since 15 Jun, 2017
Your reference may be "Detroit Techno", to call these strings "Detroit techno string style". But string sounds are used in almost all genres of music. It's actually often defined as a "type" or "family" of sound: Strings...
These are pretty generic strings (bathing in washes of reverb). These actually sounds quite acoustic. Might be sample based, not synthesized.
Generally the "analog" emulations are achieved by sending detuned Saw and/or Pulse oscillators (2 or more) through a Low pass (12 or 24 dB/oct). With a somewhat "slow" Attack and Release on both filter cutoff and amp. There are thousands of variations.
There are many tutorials on "analog" Strings (e.g. videos on Youtube). But maybe read a little too. Like Simon Cann's free How To Make a Noise ebook. As featured here at KVR "Sound Design".
viewtopic.php?f=100&t=76293
One of the synths used in the book is the now free and open source Surge.
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/surge-by-vember-audio
Surge is a brilliant and very versatile synth. Very able to emulate most of the Techno sounds you are probably after, like Strings, Pads, Plucks and Basses. Even Drums, Snares and Hihats. It has many presets that will give you a running start. It is quite a "complex" beast though: with flexibility and versatility comes complexity. Maybe somewhat intimidating to some. But it can also be treated as a "simple" subtractive synth: OSC --> FILTER --> AMP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdRZpDTi5QM
A great sounding and very easy to control free String machine (very little "synth" knowledge needed and does pads too): 2getheraudio - String Machine 2 (remake of the original Big Tick Audio classic)
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/cheeze ... etheraudio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF1N7G8GhE0
Maybe also check out this article (featuring Juan Atkins)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Atkins
The Synths And Drum Machines Behind Early Detroit Techno
https://vintageking.com/blog/2018/05/detroit-techno/
Since the Roland TR909 has been used extenively in Techno you could also check out the free MaxSynths - DR-910 (a great TR 909 emulation/synthdrums, including the original 6-bit "metal" samples)
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/dr-910-by-maxsynths
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8suv5jqNdw
And off course the Roland TR808. Check out the free Tactile Sounds - TS 808 (great TR 808 emulation).
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/ts_808 ... ile_sounds
Fullbucket Music has several great free synths that emulate Korgs K35 filter based synths (MS10, MS20). The latest being ModulAir.
https://www.fullbucket.de/music/modulair.html
A great free Yamaha DX7 emulation: Digital Suburban - Dexed
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/dexed- ... l-suburban
Synth Anatomy has recently done a "market scan" of free synthesizer plugins. Might fill in some gaps.
http://www.synthanatomy.com/2018/12/the ... st-au.html
These are pretty generic strings (bathing in washes of reverb). These actually sounds quite acoustic. Might be sample based, not synthesized.
Generally the "analog" emulations are achieved by sending detuned Saw and/or Pulse oscillators (2 or more) through a Low pass (12 or 24 dB/oct). With a somewhat "slow" Attack and Release on both filter cutoff and amp. There are thousands of variations.
There are many tutorials on "analog" Strings (e.g. videos on Youtube). But maybe read a little too. Like Simon Cann's free How To Make a Noise ebook. As featured here at KVR "Sound Design".
viewtopic.php?f=100&t=76293
One of the synths used in the book is the now free and open source Surge.
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/surge-by-vember-audio
Surge is a brilliant and very versatile synth. Very able to emulate most of the Techno sounds you are probably after, like Strings, Pads, Plucks and Basses. Even Drums, Snares and Hihats. It has many presets that will give you a running start. It is quite a "complex" beast though: with flexibility and versatility comes complexity. Maybe somewhat intimidating to some. But it can also be treated as a "simple" subtractive synth: OSC --> FILTER --> AMP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JdRZpDTi5QM
A great sounding and very easy to control free String machine (very little "synth" knowledge needed and does pads too): 2getheraudio - String Machine 2 (remake of the original Big Tick Audio classic)
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/cheeze ... etheraudio
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF1N7G8GhE0
Maybe also check out this article (featuring Juan Atkins)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_Atkins
The Synths And Drum Machines Behind Early Detroit Techno
https://vintageking.com/blog/2018/05/detroit-techno/
Since the Roland TR909 has been used extenively in Techno you could also check out the free MaxSynths - DR-910 (a great TR 909 emulation/synthdrums, including the original 6-bit "metal" samples)
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/dr-910-by-maxsynths
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8suv5jqNdw
And off course the Roland TR808. Check out the free Tactile Sounds - TS 808 (great TR 808 emulation).
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/ts_808 ... ile_sounds
Fullbucket Music has several great free synths that emulate Korgs K35 filter based synths (MS10, MS20). The latest being ModulAir.
https://www.fullbucket.de/music/modulair.html
A great free Yamaha DX7 emulation: Digital Suburban - Dexed
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/dexed- ... l-suburban
Synth Anatomy has recently done a "market scan" of free synthesizer plugins. Might fill in some gaps.
http://www.synthanatomy.com/2018/12/the ... st-au.html
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 5 posts since 25 Apr, 2019
Hi Kwurqx.Kwurqx wrote: ↑Thu Apr 25, 2019 9:57 am Your reference may be "Detroit Techno", to call these strings "Detroit techno string style". But string sounds are used in almost all genres of music. It's actually often defined as a "type" or "family" of sound: Strings...
These are pretty generic strings (bathing in washes of reverb). These actually sounds quite acoustic. Might be sample based, not synthesized.
Generally the "analog" emulations are achieved by sending detuned Saw and/or Pulse oscillators (2 or more) through a Low pass (12 or 24 dB/oct). With a somewhat "slow" Attack and Release on both filter cutoff and amp. There are thousands of variations.
There are many tutorials on "analog" Strings (e.g. videos on Youtube). But maybe read a little too. Like Simon Cann's free How To Make a Noise ebook. As featured here at KVR "Sound Design".
One of the synths used in the book is the now free and open source Surge.
Surge is a brilliant and very versatile synth. Very able to emulate most of the Techno sounds you are probably after, like Strings, Pads, Plucks and Basses. Even Drums, Snares and Hihats. It has many presets that will give you a running start. It is quite a "complex" beast though: with flexibility and versatility comes complexity. Maybe somewhat intimidating to some. But it can also be treated as a "simple" subtractive synth: OSC --> FILTER --> AMP.
A great sounding and very easy to control free String machine (very little "synth" knowledge needed and does pads too): 2getheraudio - String Machine 2 (remake of the original Big Tick Audio classic)
Maybe also check out this article (featuring Juan Atkins)
The Synths And Drum Machines Behind Early Detroit Techno
Since the Roland TR909 has been used extenively in Techno you could also check out the free MaxSynths - DR-910 (a great TR 909 emulation/synthdrums, including the original 6-bit "metal" samples)
And off course the Roland TR808. Check out the free Tactile Sounds - TS 808 (great TR 808 emulation).
Fullbucket Music has several great free synths that emulate Korgs K35 filter based synths (MS10, MS20). The latest being ModulAir.
A great free Yamaha DX7 emulation: Digital Suburban - Dexed
Synth Anatomy has recently done a "market scan" of free synthesizer plugins. Might fill in some gaps.
Special thanks for your answer full of tips, thoughts, and information about VSTs (and more).
Now i can proceed my research looking up these synths u mentioned.
Thanks, a lot.
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- KVRian
- 629 posts since 15 Jun, 2017
Short addendum:
Many times "new" "styles" are NOT the brainchilds of established artists and/or record labels. They tend to be the ideas and work of a handfull pioneers. Often with minimal means (money, gear and/or musical education and/or knowledge). Also the apperarance of new gear often triggers whole genres. Either because of the new possibilities and/or lower pricing. Or because the "old" stuff suddenly drops in value (and more people can get their hands on them).
There are many examples...
Jean Michel Jarre created his first masterpieces (in the late 70's) at home in his kitchen. Aphex Twin's iconic debut album Selected Ambient Works 85-92 includes tracks he recorded to a cassetedeck (at age 14 or so). The appearance of the samplers (like the early Akai's) triggered a huge production of all sorts of electronic music. The "failure" of the Roland TB303 (as a true acoustic bass replacement) made them cheap and affordable for many. The appearance of digital synths made "analog" synths "redundant"....and cheap(er). Triggering chances (e.g. a second hand market) for the pioneers of house, techno etc. Even the enthousiastic volume levels beyond what their gear could actually handle found their way into genres (and studios). Like the overdriven and distorted bassdrums and synths in certain genres.
So...especially in "ye early days" most gear and techniques used are not "state-of-the-art".
Many times "new" "styles" are NOT the brainchilds of established artists and/or record labels. They tend to be the ideas and work of a handfull pioneers. Often with minimal means (money, gear and/or musical education and/or knowledge). Also the apperarance of new gear often triggers whole genres. Either because of the new possibilities and/or lower pricing. Or because the "old" stuff suddenly drops in value (and more people can get their hands on them).
There are many examples...
Jean Michel Jarre created his first masterpieces (in the late 70's) at home in his kitchen. Aphex Twin's iconic debut album Selected Ambient Works 85-92 includes tracks he recorded to a cassetedeck (at age 14 or so). The appearance of the samplers (like the early Akai's) triggered a huge production of all sorts of electronic music. The "failure" of the Roland TB303 (as a true acoustic bass replacement) made them cheap and affordable for many. The appearance of digital synths made "analog" synths "redundant"....and cheap(er). Triggering chances (e.g. a second hand market) for the pioneers of house, techno etc. Even the enthousiastic volume levels beyond what their gear could actually handle found their way into genres (and studios). Like the overdriven and distorted bassdrums and synths in certain genres.
So...especially in "ye early days" most gear and techniques used are not "state-of-the-art".
