Acon Digital Verberate 2 Released

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Niowiad
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439 posts since 25 Jan, 2017

Post Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:16 am

Modulation is there, although very very subtle, more than v1.
For visual feedback, put any sustained waveshape through a spectrum analyzer and see what's happening, you can definitely see the spectrum moving with modulation going on, and standing still with modulation at 0%.

Much more difficult to hear (and even see) when non-sustained, non-static and more complex sounds are passing through the reverb, but not really an issue for me at least, when I'm using Verberate and I'm after more "natural" sounding effect without too much movement.

With the new algo it seems like you always have some subtle drift going on, still in a natural fashion.

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c_voltage
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1342 posts since 16 May, 2004 from Soviet Union

Re: Acon Digital Verberate 2 Released

Post Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:03 pm

Niowiad Ok will try with various analyzers, and then write about results. (Though fact by itself that it works not the same as in previous version seems to me not quite right, but ok).

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4damind
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4852 posts since 17 Aug, 2004 from Berlin, Germany

Re: Acon Digital Verberate 2 Released

Post Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:11 pm

Can somebody say something about the new "Vivid" algorithmn for plates? How does the plate compare eg. to Valhalla Plate if we speak about something like the EMT 140?

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c_voltage
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1342 posts since 16 May, 2004 from Soviet Union

Re: Acon Digital Verberate 2 Released

Post Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:23 pm

Need to say i quite liked new engine during trying (especially his modulation system, that works very noticeable in any stage :D , bloom+swirl features i mean). For just in case.
And almost bought subject, but was puzzled by the above problem.

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stian
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949 posts since 1 Jan, 2005 from Norway

Re: Acon Digital Verberate 2 Released

Post Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:02 pm

c_voltage wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:23 pm
Need to say i quite liked new engine during trying (especially his modulation system, that works very noticeable in any stage :D , bloom+swirl features i mean). For just in case.
And almost bought subject, but was puzzled by the above problem.
We'll check out this issue. If there's a difference in the modulation depth between v1 and v2 (if yes, it was unintentional), we will need to be careful not to break backwards compatibility with v2 parameter recall. The best approach is probably to increase the value range and map the values accordingly when importing v1 presets.

Best,
Stian

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c_voltage
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1342 posts since 16 May, 2004 from Soviet Union

Re: Acon Digital Verberate 2 Released

Post Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:42 am

stian wrote:
Sun Mar 17, 2019 11:02 pm
c_voltage wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 3:23 pm
Need to say i quite liked new engine during trying (especially his modulation system, that works very noticeable in any stage :D , bloom+swirl features i mean). For just in case.
And almost bought subject, but was puzzled by the above problem.
We'll check out this issue. If there's a difference in the modulation depth between v1 and v2 (if yes, it was unintentional), we will need to be careful not to break backwards compatibility with v2 parameter recall. The best approach is probably to increase the value range and map the values accordingly when importing v1 presets.

Best,
Stian
Ok, thanks, sounds good.

I did not check yet v2 mod impact thru analyzers though (sorry for that), but did compare again v1 and v2 mod impact by ear (both plugs was ajusted with identical settings).

So, my words (above, about v1) "i hear.....just fine" perhaps exaggerated a bit. More rightly will be say " it is really subtle, but i hear", while in v2 i really Not hear.

The next thing that could be note: during rotate Mod rate and Mod depth handles in v1, we hear specific artefact, similar to which we can get when adjusting room size in some other reverbs during sounding tail. Ie we hear - something is works. While in v2 absolutely silence during rotate. What somehow suggests.

SteveWZ
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883 posts since 26 Feb, 2016

Re: Acon Digital Verberate 2 Released

Post Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:11 pm

Niowiad wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:16 am
Modulation is there, although very very subtle, more than v1.
For visual feedback, put any sustained waveshape through a spectrum analyzer and see what's happening, you can definitely see the spectrum moving with modulation going on, and standing still with modulation at 0%.

Much more difficult to hear (and even see) when non-sustained, non-static and more complex sounds are passing through the reverb, but not really an issue for me at least, when I'm using Verberate and I'm after more "natural" sounding effect without too much movement.

With the new algo it seems like you always have some subtle drift going on, still in a natural fashion.
The modulation can be pronounced and very lush if desired.
Here is an example of that with the new Vivid Hall algorithm:

https://soundcloud.com/synth-presets-co ... erberate-2

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c_voltage
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Re: Acon Digital Verberate 2 Released

Post Mon Mar 18, 2019 3:15 pm

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Sparky77
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911 posts since 29 Sep, 2006

Re: Acon Digital Verberate 2 Released

Post Mon Mar 18, 2019 5:10 pm

SteveWZ wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:11 pm
Niowiad wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:16 am
Modulation is there, although very very subtle, more than v1.
For visual feedback, put any sustained waveshape through a spectrum analyzer and see what's happening, you can definitely see the spectrum moving with modulation going on, and standing still with modulation at 0%.

Much more difficult to hear (and even see) when non-sustained, non-static and more complex sounds are passing through the reverb, but not really an issue for me at least, when I'm using Verberate and I'm after more "natural" sounding effect without too much movement.

With the new algo it seems like you always have some subtle drift going on, still in a natural fashion.
The modulation can be pronounced and very lush if desired.
Here is an example of that with the new Vivid Hall algorithm:

https://soundcloud.com/synth-presets-co ... erberate-2
Nice, i may have to pick this reverb up.
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ibanguitar
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40 posts since 27 Jun, 2014

Re: Acon Digital Verberate 2 Released

Post Mon Mar 18, 2019 11:59 pm

Very nice reverb...Wish: sidechain ducking

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Niowiad
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439 posts since 25 Jan, 2017

Re: Acon Digital Verberate 2 Released

Post Tue Mar 19, 2019 12:25 am

SteveWZ wrote:
Mon Mar 18, 2019 1:11 pm
Niowiad wrote:
Sat Mar 16, 2019 9:16 am
Modulation is there, although very very subtle, more than v1.
For visual feedback, put any sustained waveshape through a spectrum analyzer and see what's happening, you can definitely see the spectrum moving with modulation going on, and standing still with modulation at 0%.

Much more difficult to hear (and even see) when non-sustained, non-static and more complex sounds are passing through the reverb, but not really an issue for me at least, when I'm using Verberate and I'm after more "natural" sounding effect without too much movement.

With the new algo it seems like you always have some subtle drift going on, still in a natural fashion.
The modulation can be pronounced and very lush if desired.
Here is an example of that with the new Vivid Hall algorithm:

https://soundcloud.com/synth-presets-co ... erberate-2
Perfectly agree on that and never stated otherwise. :wink:
Most of my post was about the Legacy algorithm.
The last sentence about Vivid having subtle drift was referred to 0% swirl, above which sure can make the modulation prominent in the sound.

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Omkar
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820 posts since 25 Dec, 2007 from Hamburg,Germany

Re: Acon Digital Verberate 2 Released

Post Wed Mar 20, 2019 8:41 am

Got upgrade today, first off: congrats!
It`s a unique, lightweight reverb and to my ears improved.

In case of v2 upgrades:
If technically doable, I`d enjoy a switchable pre-post eq.
A separation of reverb and er?
A ducking feature.

It`s a natural reverb (to me)
so all in all I`d rather prefer enhanced functionality than additional fx.

Btw, Paddle service works frictionless and fast, enjoyable.

Thanks again for the upgrade intro price!
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fese
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961 posts since 14 Sep, 2004 from $HOME

Re: Acon Digital Verberate 2 Released

Post Wed Mar 20, 2019 1:11 pm

I have the verberate version that was recently included in an acoustica update.
Is that also eligible for the update pricing?

3ee
KVRAF
3701 posts since 8 Mar, 2006

Re: Acon Digital Verberate 2 Released

Post Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:02 pm

sounding awesome, great job Acon Digital! :love: :tu:

here's a video featuring v2, have no idea what he's saying but reverb sounds amazing!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tL0a15QF160

3ee
KVRAF
3701 posts since 8 Mar, 2006

Re: Acon Digital Verberate 2 Released

Post Wed Mar 20, 2019 4:04 pm

would be interesting if the filter band types were switchable... say, if one wants 2-3 peak filters within the decay/feedback path..

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