Do you heavily use the stock eFX/Mix plugins in your DAW(s) ?
- KVRAF
- 10616 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from Somewhere near the Morgul Vale.
I'll use the internal EQ, reverb and delay in Logic, maybe a couple of others, but I use 3rd party compressors (loves me a Fairchild 670 emulation) and occasionally a Pultec EQ (though Logic has its own emulation of that, now). Jury is still out for me regarding using the built-in verbs in various VIs over the Logic ones in terms of CPU efficiency.
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- 15968 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
This look suspiciously like BBE's Stomp-Board interface (which only came out last year).
Not really, it was always a big attraction for Orion and for most of its life it was all anyone had in Reason. I imagine a lot of FL users also rely very heavily on native effects and generators. It certainly has plenty. Even on this thread, a lot of people are saying they use Live's built-in effects.
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- KVRAF
- 6468 posts since 17 Dec, 2009
they wouldn't be the first to ripoff logic.BONES wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 10:54 pm
This look suspiciously like BBE's Stomp-Board interface (which only came out last year).Not really, it was always a big attraction for Orion and for most of its life it was all anyone had in Reason. I imagine a lot of FL users also rely very heavily on native effects and generators. It certainly has plenty. Even on this thread, a lot of people are saying they use Live's built-in effects.
Vienna Ensemble downright lifted fader png from logic 10.0-10.2
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- 15968 posts since 14 Jun, 2001 from Somewhere else, on principle
What is that? As in, what's it for?
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- KVRAF
- 6468 posts since 17 Dec, 2009
- KVRian
- 896 posts since 8 Aug, 2011
There are new LBX strips for some Reaper included plugins like 1176, DBX160 and Fairchild they look great. Check on next page of the forum too for 500 series coming up:https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=206847&page=2SoundPorn wrote: ↑Sun Feb 10, 2019 12:55 pm Thats why DAWs like Reaper with their JS effects and Live with they're MAX are so valuable because they enabled coders to make effects for it. In fact Tracktion is doing this now too. Reaper has some unbelievably good JS effects but because of the AirWindows-esque GUI nobody knows about them
chk071 wrote: ↑Sun Feb 10, 2019 11:52 am Well, that's sort of the problem. Developers who do DAW can't necessarily code effect or instrument plugins. And not every company is as big as Apple, and can easily buy in external stuff. I agree though that Presonus should do something about that. After all, good included content is always a argument for the buyer.
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- KVRist
- 275 posts since 11 May, 2010
Caveat, I'm just a hobbyist and my mixes don't have to please anyone other than me lol! Like others, I find the built-in Logic plugins overall quite nice. That does NOT stop me from chasing the "ooo shiny" everytime there is a sale The plugins I have "replaced" include piano and electric piano, when there were sales on Garritan CFX lite and Scarbee ep88 respectively. I feel these are miles better than the instruments in Logic. Flip side, the Logic b3 organ sounds great to me, so I haven't really felt compelled to run out and get vb3/blue to replace it. Synth-wise, Alchemy, Sculpture and even the "lowly" retro synth etc are great, but I've added various others. Magware, freeware, and now Diva and Repro from the recent sale. Ultimately I want Kontact (and bang for buck, Komplete) so I'll have various others, really looking forward to Massive X, fm8 and Reaktor. I'm eventually going to get Zebra and at that point I can't imagine I will be looking for more synths (but I probably will!).
Once Logic added Chromaverb, that scratched an algo verb itch. I did pick up Xenoverb, which has a shimmer, and have my eye on every one of the Valhalla plugins lol! Waiting to see what the new Valhalla tape delay plugin will be like. I like the Logic compressors and the new vintage EQ. At this point (actually long before now) I have no excuse to not be making music It's fun to chase new plugins but at some point you gotta sit down and do something with them
Once Logic added Chromaverb, that scratched an algo verb itch. I did pick up Xenoverb, which has a shimmer, and have my eye on every one of the Valhalla plugins lol! Waiting to see what the new Valhalla tape delay plugin will be like. I like the Logic compressors and the new vintage EQ. At this point (actually long before now) I have no excuse to not be making music It's fun to chase new plugins but at some point you gotta sit down and do something with them
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- KVRian
- 1099 posts since 20 Nov, 2004 from Seinäjoki, Finland
I use Cubase with its stock plugins all the time. The studio EQ is very straightforward to use as it's in the channel strip, so I very rarely need any other EQ. I really like the vintage compressor and DaTube. The multiband compressor and Quadrafuzz are awesome tools but kind of situational. The maximizer sounds very transparent so it gets plenty of use as well.
- KVRian
- 1100 posts since 9 Jan, 2015 from NY, NY
Not all of them. I find that most work OK, but the two that always seem to fall down for any DAW I own or have tried are reverb and flanging.
Nothing beats a hardware guitar pedal for flanging (although some are better than others), and there aren't too many reverbs that sound really good unless you spend money on them.
Nothing beats a hardware guitar pedal for flanging (although some are better than others), and there aren't too many reverbs that sound really good unless you spend money on them.
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- KVRist
- 275 posts since 11 May, 2010
Ironically, I couldn't get along with Logic's pedalboard OR the guitar amp sims--though it was for guitar, not synths. I much, much prefer the tones I get from s-gear and a free tubescreamer plugin I grabbed. IRs helped the Logic amps a bit but it still was pretty bad. Then again, I'm a pretty bad guitarist so ymmv! I like the bass amp designer, on the other hand.
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- KVRAF
- 6468 posts since 17 Dec, 2009
me neither, and i'm a decent guitarist. probably one model from the amp designer does it for me. but i'm running different guitar sounds lately so it's not a problem.Stokely wrote: ↑Wed Feb 13, 2019 9:10 pm Ironically, I couldn't get along with Logic's pedalboard OR the guitar amp sims--though it was for guitar, not synths. I much, much prefer the tones I get from s-gear and a free tubescreamer plugin I grabbed. IRs helped the Logic amps a bit but it still was pretty bad. Then again, I'm a pretty bad guitarist so ymmv! I like the bass amp designer, on the other hand.
Sgear doesn't do it for me either. am demoing mercuriall reaxis atm
Love the bass amp designer.
- KVRAF
- 2909 posts since 15 Feb, 2007 from ...in the butt
Out of the ReaFX and JSFX included in REAPER, I use...
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- KVRAF
- 5428 posts since 18 Jul, 2002
Bodhisan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:44 amWow - very nice, Mr. discoDSP. Great variety and imagination - it doesn't sound like the same old stuff I usually hear from here (and the same old stuff coming out of my little studio). What are you using for your lo-fi traps?discoDSP wrote: ↑Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:21 pmLo-Fi samples and Bliss sampler
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- KVRAF
- 5428 posts since 18 Jul, 2002
Lo-Fi samples and Bliss samplerdiscoDSP wrote: ↑Thu Feb 14, 2019 5:45 amBodhisan wrote: ↑Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:44 amWow - very nice, Mr. discoDSP. Great variety and imagination - it doesn't sound like the same old stuff I usually hear from here (and the same old stuff coming out of my little studio). What are you using for your lo-fi traps?discoDSP wrote: ↑Sun Feb 10, 2019 3:21 pm
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- KVRAF
- 3897 posts since 28 Jan, 2011 from MEXICO
I use mostly Live's fx, some of them I like a lot, some others are very easy and fast to use.
But one big reason to use Live native fx is the UI, closing and open plugin windows gets annoying after a while and Live native effects UI allow a very fast workflow when editing in a single channel, you can see quite a few at once and jump to one another.
I feel that overall when using Live native effects my brain isn't overloaded from looking at 5 different GUI's with different conventions, colors and displays.
But one big reason to use Live native fx is the UI, closing and open plugin windows gets annoying after a while and Live native effects UI allow a very fast workflow when editing in a single channel, you can see quite a few at once and jump to one another.
I feel that overall when using Live native effects my brain isn't overloaded from looking at 5 different GUI's with different conventions, colors and displays.
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