You, as well as others here, raise some good arguments. I think at this point we've lost the context of my original argument which was simply that it's reasonable if someone were to be upset about the Massive X delay. People were pouncing on a precious poster saying such concerns were first world problems. Basically I was arguing with this premise.BONES wrote: ↑Thu Feb 07, 2019 5:34 amSo you'd rather have a bug-ridden pile of junk on time than a perfect, finished product when it's ready?rlared wrote: ↑Wed Feb 06, 2019 8:24 pm NI said "Buy this product and we'll deliver everything to you now, except one product which we will delivery in February". Then after a bunch of people purchased, they changed it to "Actually it's going to be June". Regardless of what the reasons for the delay are, they committed something to their customers and didn't deliver.It didn't seem to upset anyone who put a deposit on a Tesla Model 3.I can't think of any industry where that would result in customers NOT being upset.But they did deliver 95% of what those people paid for and then those people got a voucher to make up for the other 5%. So where, exactly, is the problem there? If I buy three items from a web-store and only two of them are in stock and they send the other one a month later, I don't care whether they charge my credit card all at once, as long as I get what I paid for when it's available. I pre-order eBooks on line all the time - they charge my credit card on the spot and I get the book when it's ready. No problem. Maybe the book gets to me on the day they said, maybe it doesn't, I don't care enough to know.AFAIK, nobody has pre-paid for Massive X, they have paid for Komplete 12 and all but one small part of that was delivered immediately. How do you not see the difference here? I'll give you another example. In 2004 I bought a new car and I wanted parking sensors with it, a dealer fitted option. The dealer had to order the parts in, which took about six weeks for some reason, but they took my money when they delivered the car. So think of Massive X as the parking sensors on my car.Sure, if NI had not acknowledged the problem, i.e. not offered any form of apology or compensation, but, again, that's not the case here.
Thinking about it, the question that really needs to be asked is - who would rather NI took back all the bits of Komplete 12 they had already delivered and gave you your money back, not allowing you to buy it again until Massive X was ready? I'm thinking no-one. Because, from NI's point of view, that's the alternative - delay the whole thing or deliver what they can and get the rest out as soon as it's ready.You think there aren't people just like you in every age group? You must be considerably less than half my age if you are that naive. If you want to see what a real shit-fight is, go and see how long Elektron have been promising a fixed version of Overbridge.
Then KVR happened and the shit started flying