Vember Audio Surge is now open-source
- KVRAF
- 1534 posts since 20 May, 2002 from Cambridge, UK
can someone explain what's the difference between the latest builds and the latest commercial release version?
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- KVRAF
- 35314 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Free, open source
64 bit Mac version
VST3 versions
Vector GUI - lays basis for GUI scaling (already partly implemented in AU)
Beginnings of MPE support
Various other things but I think those are the main ones.
In other words the whole focus is on bringing it up-todate with modern standards.
64 bit Mac version
VST3 versions
Vector GUI - lays basis for GUI scaling (already partly implemented in AU)
Beginnings of MPE support
Various other things but I think those are the main ones.
In other words the whole focus is on bringing it up-todate with modern standards.
- KVRist
- 297 posts since 4 Feb, 2010 from kontula, helsinki, finland
there is an experimental build out there with 200% and 300% zooms, but that has yet to be merged in since it had some issues (i was able to make the plugin 300% and then unable to get it to resize again because i had no access to the menu button anymore (screen too small, plugin too large) - anyway, this is still being experimented on. if you're git-savvy, you can have a look at grabbing that experimental branch and building it locally for your own use. Anyway, Zoom is one of the most wanted features (especially after the DAW Parameter Learn bug was fixed) - so we'll definitely be posting about it once it is out in the nightly builds.
Also, there are approx. two people working on getting this to build and display successfully with Linux.
For now, all the builds are 64-bit only, since we have not found a 32-bit maintainer yet who would be enthusiastic enough about Surge to make sure it compiles and works as 32-bit versions. Anyone know such a guy?
- KVRist
- 297 posts since 4 Feb, 2010 from kontula, helsinki, finland
So far work has been going on to make the latest build closer and closer (...and closer) to the 1.52 (or 1.53?) version. A lot of bugs have been squashed, but I suspect there are going to be more. Hence why having someone that has used Surge when it was a commercial plugin, try out the newest versions and report back on their experience, would be crucial.
Especially MPE.
I have a private tentative changeslog that I keep adding stuff to as it gets fixed or implemented.
Lately re-introduced: Dragging of .wt (wavetable file) to Surge will now work. Dragging of .wav to Surge will now shoot an error, instead of crashing. DAW-learning-of-Surge-parameters has been fixed to no longer shoot double-parameters, but should work across all or most DAWs.
As mentioned above in a previous post, the main focus now is to get Zoom working.
The Surge that was put out on GitHub refused to compile on macOS AudioUnit altogether. Baconpaul heroically fixed that. Overall, this should be considered to be in a "check out compared to consumer Surge" -stage, not a "I need to deliver a master of a track that is 100% Surge, let me just replace my old plugin with this new one", SurgeOpenSource is at the bleeding edge right now, hopefully progressing swiftly towards cutting edge state.
Now is a great time to log onto http://github.com/surge-synthesizer/surge/issues and logging in a new issue or two, especially if you run across bugs but especially if you have feature requests.
The aim is to make a legit 1.6 version, and then start implementing features for the future, slowly but surely, while retaining backwards compatibility.
Certain issues with polyphonic midi playback have been raised, but they are yet to be addressed. I have a feeling that this and MPE might be next on the pipeline after zoom has been finished. But we'll only know when zoom has been finished
Anyway, this is an iterative process, one step at a time, and I, for one, don't have SurgeCommercial to compare with SurgeOpenSource, so anyone who does, please hit us up about what works better and what works worse. Otherwise we're in the dark, and that's no way to fix issues.
- Banned
- 7624 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway
Is it a 32bit release now too?
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- KVRist
- 297 posts since 4 Feb, 2010 from kontula, helsinki, finland
as mentioned above, for now, all the builds are 64-bit only, since we have not found a 32-bit maintainer yet who would be enthusiastic enough about Surge to make sure it compiles and works as 32-bit versions. Anyone know such a guy?
- Banned
- 7624 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway
I see. No problem
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- KVRist
- 297 posts since 4 Feb, 2010 from kontula, helsinki, finland
I do keep opening a ticket for 32-bit support, and really do hope that eventually it can be provided. But getting Surge to compile with Linux, and introducing the zoomable interface, and adding various other fixes take precedence for the current team.Halonmusic wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:38 amI see. No problem
- Banned
- 7624 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway
Sure, those are much more important. 32bit version can wait for now.esaruoho wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:46 amI do keep opening a ticket for 32-bit support, and really do hope that eventually it can be provided. But getting Surge to compile with Linux, and introducing the zoomable interface, and adding various other fixes take precedence for the current team.Halonmusic wrote: ↑Tue Jan 22, 2019 10:38 amI see. No problem
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- KVRist
- 414 posts since 21 Jan, 2007
Vember in case you're reading,
over the years I've kept hearing about Short Circuit 1, is the source code still in existence?
over the years I've kept hearing about Short Circuit 1, is the source code still in existence?
- KVRist
- 297 posts since 4 Feb, 2010 from kontula, helsinki, finland
do they not work? I don't have a VST3 Daw for Mac so I'm not sure how to test it. I know they work with AU & VST2.
- KVRist
- 297 posts since 4 Feb, 2010 from kontula, helsinki, finland
i've asked around for people using surge opensource newest build, and VST3 audio input appears to work.
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- KVRAF
- 9136 posts since 6 Oct, 2004
Hi, thanks for working on this fine instrument!
Would it be less work to make binaries with an install script for linux?
This has worked almost perfectly with the many U-he linux plugins
ported by Abique.
Cheers