2CAudio Breeze | 2.5 | Simple. Light. Pristine. Intelligently Adaptive.
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Sampleconstruct Sampleconstruct https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=191286
- KVRAF
- 16153 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
There is already some direct communication between P and B, if you activate the P-Link, the pre-delay section in B gets deactivated automatically.
- KVRAF
- 35295 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
I can't see that, if I activate P-Link in Breeze the predelay gets deactivated but I can't see any interaction between Breeze and Precedence at the moment, or a P-Link buton on Precedence (although it would be useful to have some tooltips at least, as many buttons don't even have labels so I'm not entirely sure what they all do).Sampleconstruct wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:09 pm There is already some direct communication between P and B, if you activate the P-Link, the pre-delay section in B gets deactivated automatically.
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- KVRAF
- 5179 posts since 16 Nov, 2014
You still have to manually set them up.aMUSEd wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:17 amI can't see that, if I activate P-Link in Breeze the predelay gets deactivated but I can't see any interaction between Breeze and Precedence at the moment, or a P-Link buton on Precedence (although it would be useful to have some tooltips at least, as many buttons don't even have labels so I'm not entirely sure what they all do).Sampleconstruct wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:09 pm There is already some direct communication between P and B, if you activate the P-Link, the pre-delay section in B gets deactivated automatically.
If you turn on P-link in Breeze you have the first step. Now whatever mix/balance you set in Breeze, you should set the same amount in the distance parameter of Precedence to get (in theory) the best results.
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2621 posts since 12 Sep, 2008
P-Link is “manual proof of concept” in the version you guys have. The process is to turn on the link button in breeze and then manually change the mix/balance value in breeze to match the distance value in P. There is no automatic communicaiton between then in the version you have.
The next update which is hopefully by the end of January has automatic communication and other fancy tricks. We will fully document how it works with this next update.
The next update which is hopefully by the end of January has automatic communication and other fancy tricks. We will fully document how it works with this next update.
- KVRAF
- 23489 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Since the P-Link button is within Breeze, I can't see what Precedence has to do with this and hence where the communication your refer to should be happening.Sampleconstruct wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:09 pm There is already some direct communication between P and B, if you activate the P-Link, the pre-delay section in B gets deactivated automatically.
All P-Link does is calculating the pre-delay according to the distance (which Breeze gets through the wet/balance level)
"Preamps have literally one job: when you turn up the gain, it gets louder." Jamcat, talking about presmp-emulation plugins.
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Sampleconstruct Sampleconstruct https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=191286
- KVRAF
- 16153 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
Yep, I stand corrected, I obviously wrote some irritating BS.jens wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:24 amSince the P-Link button is within Breeze, I can't see what Precedence has to do with this and hence where the communication your refer to should be happening.Sampleconstruct wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:09 pm There is already some direct communication between P and B, if you activate the P-Link, the pre-delay section in B gets deactivated automatically.
All P-Link does is calculating the pre-delay according to the distance (which Breeze gets through the wet/balance level)
- KVRAF
- 5678 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
you UTTER bastard
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- KVRAF
- 35295 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Yes I know.Cinebient wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 2:58 amYou still have to manually set them up.aMUSEd wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 12:17 amI can't see that, if I activate P-Link in Breeze the predelay gets deactivated but I can't see any interaction between Breeze and Precedence at the moment, or a P-Link buton on Precedence (although it would be useful to have some tooltips at least, as many buttons don't even have labels so I'm not entirely sure what they all do).Sampleconstruct wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:09 pm There is already some direct communication between P and B, if you activate the P-Link, the pre-delay section in B gets deactivated automatically.
If you turn on P-link in Breeze you have the first step. Now whatever mix/balance you set in Breeze, you should set the same amount in the distance parameter of Precedence to get (in theory) the best results.
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Sampleconstruct Sampleconstruct https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=191286
- KVRAF
- 16153 posts since 12 Oct, 2008 from Here and there
- KVRAF
- 35295 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Not 'irritating', just a bit confusing because it had me scratching my head wondering whether there was a 'hidden' P LInk button there somewhere. The only P LInk button I knew about was the one in Breeze 2 but given the unlabeled and undocumented state of Precedence buttons I was doubting my understanding.Sampleconstruct wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 11:06 amYep, I stand corrected, I obviously wrote some irritating BS.jens wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 9:24 amSince the P-Link button is within Breeze, I can't see what Precedence has to do with this and hence where the communication your refer to should be happening.Sampleconstruct wrote: ↑Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:09 pm There is already some direct communication between P and B, if you activate the P-Link, the pre-delay section in B gets deactivated automatically.
All P-Link does is calculating the pre-delay according to the distance (which Breeze gets through the wet/balance level)
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- KVRian
- 677 posts since 8 Apr, 2012
Actually i edited and resaved (with modified names) some of the hall presets with decay times around 1.5 and 2.3 seconds. This way, Breeze works much better within orchestral setups, since it comes much closer to real halls.
(Musikverein Vienna & Philharmonie Berlin: 2 sec,
Royal Festival Hall London: 1.5 sec,
La Scala [Milan]: 1.7 sec,
Metropolitan Opera New York: 1.7-2 sec)
- KVRAF
- 4881 posts since 4 Aug, 2006 from Helsinki
Yes, I do that ’slightly modified preset saving’ all the time. But my point in the ’kiil’ option, which is implemented in many ’space reverbs’, is in possibility to write, edit and listen your reverbed audio. fast. There you need killing the reverb to save time.Arrested Developer wrote: ↑Sun Jan 13, 2019 1:58 pmActually i edited and resaved (with modified names) some of the hall presets with decay times around 1.5 and 2.3 seconds. This way, Breeze works much better within orchestral setups, since it comes much closer to real halls.
(Musikverein Vienna & Philharmonie Berlin: 2 sec,
Royal Festival Hall London: 1.5 sec,
La Scala [Milan]: 1.7 sec,
Metropolitan Opera New York: 1.7-2 sec)
- KVRAF
- 5678 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
a buffer clearing option?
sketches... http://soundcloud.com/onesnzeros
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2621 posts since 12 Sep, 2008
For editing presets etc we do actually clear the buffer whenever you edit almost anything/everything on the GUI. (Which is why there are click-like sounds and the inability to do smooth automation). So for editing settings etc it seems like this should already do what you are requesting?
Or the request is for creative purposes such as rhythmic gating of the verb for dance/electronic music purposes or similar?
Or the request is for creative purposes such as rhythmic gating of the verb for dance/electronic music purposes or similar?