Logic Pro 11 will be releasing later this year ? ?, are we expecting any major upgrades 10.5 ?
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- Banned
- 80 posts since 16 Jan, 2006
Well, let's all just be happy that they are doing SOMETHING>...just a few years ago logic went without an update for like 3 or 4 YEARS! Apple is doing some weird stuff. I really don't get that company. All the money in the world and they can't get the GUI's updated on all their instruments?
The included synths are NOT that great compared to what's available. They are coasting on nostalgia at this point. Also, why haven't they updated the drummer and sampler yet? Why have all that money in the bank if you don't give your teams enough resources to execute with excellence.
AND....Logic's audio engine sucks! It loads on one core instead of distributing the workload. It overloads too easily. Sometimes the audio cuts out if you press the arm button while a project is playing (on an audio track). There are delays when you change audio parameters.
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I started on Cubase but switched to Logic when I got a Mac. I'm HAPPY the Logic team has some gumption now...but Cubase 10 looks IMPRESSIVE>..
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The included synths are NOT that great compared to what's available. They are coasting on nostalgia at this point. Also, why haven't they updated the drummer and sampler yet? Why have all that money in the bank if you don't give your teams enough resources to execute with excellence.
AND....Logic's audio engine sucks! It loads on one core instead of distributing the workload. It overloads too easily. Sometimes the audio cuts out if you press the arm button while a project is playing (on an audio track). There are delays when you change audio parameters.
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I started on Cubase but switched to Logic when I got a Mac. I'm HAPPY the Logic team has some gumption now...but Cubase 10 looks IMPRESSIVE>..
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- KVRist
- 122 posts since 27 Nov, 2018
I currently made the switch to Ableton from Logic due to its workflow. I still plan on using Logic for mixing/mastering.
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- KVRist
- 122 posts since 27 Nov, 2018
Also, I really don't like how Apple is trying to make its own GPU's and CPU's...
- KVRAF
- 10471 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from Somewhere near the Morgul Vale.
I have no issues with how Logic distributes its tasks. My only issue with Apple at this point is how they tie updates to OS updates that, for me, have proven problematic in the past. I expect I am not going to go further than Mojave on this computer, so I'm good for the next two rounds of big updates, if history is an indicator.
Spidermix, 8 gigs RAM these days is a little low.
Spidermix, 8 gigs RAM these days is a little low.
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- KVRAF
- 16368 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
Over the last few years they've been adding features and squashing bugs at a rate which seems to eclipse most other DAW's out there...For free. And that's not enough for you??
Money's not the issue. The bottleneck is quality control and beta testing, which is great for those of us that would rather they strike the balance between stability and new shit. There are people who rely on Logic for professional use, and would be much happier that no downtime is incurred 'cause some folks can't get by with what's currently on offer. And, of course, there are some of us who happen to think the included synths are really good. Nothing to stop you making up the supposed 'lack' elsewhere
Regarding the missing Gui refreshes: Why would you be demanding Gui refreshes while at the same time bemoaning the lack of instrument updates? What would be the point of slapping a new skin on exs24II when it is surely (They didn't acquire the Redmatica dude just to add auto-sampling to Garageband) one of the assets that is begging for a complete overhaul; Ditto that for Ultrabeat.
- KVRAF
- 10471 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from Somewhere near the Morgul Vale.
And I think Alchemy is great.
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- KVRAF
- 6969 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
More than great: extraordinary!
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/music Experimental Ambient
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
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- KVRAF
- 2344 posts since 15 Feb, 2006 from Berkeley, CA
Whaddya mean? Every single Drummer has a name.
I know that Joe Gore (who has played guitar with Tom Waits & PJ Harvey, among others) worked on amp/pedalboard modeling and sound design in Logic.
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- KVRAF
- 3367 posts since 2 Oct, 2004
That’s pretty cool. But they should at least credit people.Winstontaneous wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 8:17 pmWhaddya mean? Every single Drummer has a name.
I know that Joe Gore (who has played guitar with Tom Waits & PJ Harvey, among others) worked on amp/pedalboard modeling and sound design in Logic.
Apparently Chromaverb was made by Camel Audio in the uk.
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- Banned
- 80 posts since 16 Jan, 2006
How many “years” does it take to update GUI’S that are completely not in line with the rest of the program? You’re presenting a false choice. It’s not one or the other. It’s about making cohesive software. Period.el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:50 pmOver the last few years they've been adding features and squashing bugs at a rate which seems to eclipse most other DAW's out there...For free. And that's not enough for you??
Money's not the issue. The bottleneck is quality control and beta testing, which is great for those of us that would rather they strike the balance between stability and new shit. There are people who rely on Logic for professional use, and would be much happier that no downtime is incurred 'cause some folks can't get by with what's currently on offer. And, of course, there are some of us who happen to think the included synths are really good. Nothing to stop you making up the supposed 'lack' elsewhere
Regarding the missing Gui refreshes: Why would you be demanding Gui refreshes while at the same time bemoaning the lack of instrument updates? What would be the point of slapping a new skin on exs24II when it is surely (They didn't acquire the Redmatica dude just to add auto-sampling to Garageband) one of the assets that is begging for a complete overhaul; Ditto that for Ultrabeat.
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- KVRAF
- 1871 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
I would be happy if Apple would fix the damn UI bugs. Simple things, like: Make tempo curve copy and paste work correctly (only workaround is option-drag). Fix broken mouse pointer indicators when trying to loop or extend clips (this one requires a restart when it randomly starts happening).
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- KVRian
- 649 posts since 2 Nov, 2014
You are right. Plugin GUI s are all over the place. 3 different generations. No consistency at all. But I guess all the old ones will have updated functionality so they hold it till then.spidermix wrote: ↑Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:31 pmHow many “years” does it take to update GUI’S that are completely not in line with the rest of the program? You’re presenting a false choice. It’s not one or the other. It’s about making cohesive software. Period.el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:50 pmOver the last few years they've been adding features and squashing bugs at a rate which seems to eclipse most other DAW's out there...For free. And that's not enough for you??
Money's not the issue. The bottleneck is quality control and beta testing, which is great for those of us that would rather they strike the balance between stability and new shit. There are people who rely on Logic for professional use, and would be much happier that no downtime is incurred 'cause some folks can't get by with what's currently on offer. And, of course, there are some of us who happen to think the included synths are really good. Nothing to stop you making up the supposed 'lack' elsewhere
Regarding the missing Gui refreshes: Why would you be demanding Gui refreshes while at the same time bemoaning the lack of instrument updates? What would be the point of slapping a new skin on exs24II when it is surely (They didn't acquire the Redmatica dude just to add auto-sampling to Garageband) one of the assets that is begging for a complete overhaul; Ditto that for Ultrabeat.
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- 25311 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
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- 16368 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
The gui's that need changing are for the plugins that need major structural overhauls. So, once again, why would they stick a new coat of paint on something that needs to be torn down and rebuilt from the ground up??spidermix wrote: ↑Fri Jan 04, 2019 5:31 pmHow many “years” does it take to update GUI’S that are completely not in line with the rest of the program? You’re presenting a false choice. It’s not one or the other. It’s about making cohesive software. Period.el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: ↑Thu Jan 03, 2019 5:50 pmOver the last few years they've been adding features and squashing bugs at a rate which seems to eclipse most other DAW's out there...For free. And that's not enough for you??
Money's not the issue. The bottleneck is quality control and beta testing, which is great for those of us that would rather they strike the balance between stability and new shit. There are people who rely on Logic for professional use, and would be much happier that no downtime is incurred 'cause some folks can't get by with what's currently on offer. And, of course, there are some of us who happen to think the included synths are really good. Nothing to stop you making up the supposed 'lack' elsewhere
Regarding the missing Gui refreshes: Why would you be demanding Gui refreshes while at the same time bemoaning the lack of instrument updates? What would be the point of slapping a new skin on exs24II when it is surely (They didn't acquire the Redmatica dude just to add auto-sampling to Garageband) one of the assets that is begging for a complete overhaul; Ditto that for Ultrabeat.
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