Good Reasons To Switch Your DAW?
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- addled muppet weed
- 105895 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
they stopped supporting orion and i needed something better for audio upon my return to the studio.
while searching for a new host samplitude did their big offer last year, so seemed like a good idea at the time.
while searching for a new host samplitude did their big offer last year, so seemed like a good idea at the time.
- KVRAF
- 2288 posts since 21 Mar, 2012 from Nom..nom.. YOUR MOM
If you're no longer inspired in your current DAW, maybe that's a good reason. That said, I prefer to use companion DAW and hold on to 1 as my main.voidhead23 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:21 am Are there ever situations where it's a good idea to switch DAWs? What was your experience and reasons, for those that have made this switch?
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- Banned
- 1780 posts since 26 Aug, 2012
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- KVRAF
- 8414 posts since 4 Jul, 2012 from Alesia
I've been switching back and forth between Live and Bitwig. I kind of treat the workflow as if I'm working with one DAW.
As for Logic the only other DAW I own, I've actually not even touched it.. it was honestly a impulse buy. I should at least start sampling stuff from it so I can use it in Live.
As for Logic the only other DAW I own, I've actually not even touched it.. it was honestly a impulse buy. I should at least start sampling stuff from it so I can use it in Live.
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- KVRian
- 653 posts since 2 Nov, 2014
If you feel like you are starting to do the same things after using the same daw for many years, a different DAW helps a lot. Different look, restrictions, less knowledge or different way of doing things helps to get out of the routine. At least it did for me.
I mostly try the unconventional ones though. Lİke Bİtwig FL Traction Reason. Each makes me come up with different stuff than I usually do. I use Studio One but I don't go the route of trying Cubase Logic etc since they are all very similar
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I mostly try the unconventional ones though. Lİke Bİtwig FL Traction Reason. Each makes me come up with different stuff than I usually do. I use Studio One but I don't go the route of trying Cubase Logic etc since they are all very similar
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- KVRian
- 643 posts since 17 Aug, 2015 from Finland
As someone who switched from REAPER to Reason in 2014 and then back two years later, I can say that the experience I had with Reason was at least refreshing if nothing else. Reason did help me get into electronic music composing proper, which probably hadn't happened had I stuck with REAPER for those two years. That said, I eventually found that Reason's workflow wasn't ideal for me, hence I switched back to REAPER.
That's one of the key aspects, I think: workflow. Once you've familiarized yourself with the workflow of one DAW, it can be surprisingly hard to know your way around another.
That's one of the key aspects, I think: workflow. Once you've familiarized yourself with the workflow of one DAW, it can be surprisingly hard to know your way around another.
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- KVRian
- 1234 posts since 8 May, 2018 from Sweden
I agree. It's not like you can't figure out how to do stuff at all, it's more the extra seconds here and there while you hunt around in menus and toolbars or try to figure out new keyboard shortcuts etc. Those seconds add up, and cause increased frustration and distraction.AsPeeXXXVIII wrote: ↑Mon Oct 08, 2018 2:43 pm That's one of the key aspects, I think: workflow. Once you've familiarized yourself with the workflow of one DAW, it can be surprisingly hard to know your way around another.
As a Studio One user, I'd maybe consider switching to something very different, like FL Studio for its pattern based workflow, or Reason, which is essentially a big modular playground, just for some variety. However, that would probably be a "secondary" DAW, just for playing around or to break up my usual workflow. I'll stick with SO for the foreseeable future, unless they stop updating it, take it in a completely different direction or make it some kind of ridiculous subscription "service" or similar.
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- KVRAF
- 2417 posts since 28 Mar, 2007
Every time I see "MPE support" I have to google to remind myself what it is.tapper mike wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 5:06 pm Yeah, I'm going to switch to Bitwig .... Native MPE support on all plugins not just a few. There are ways to work lack of mpe support in other hosts but it's rather demanding.
And when I find out I always remember that it was a big "Ensoniq" selling point 30 years ago.
It was an expensive must have back then,and I could never afford it.
Still can't.
- KVRAF
- 25464 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
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- KVRAF
- 2417 posts since 28 Mar, 2007
Yeah, Evil Dragon just put me right.
Still think its a gimmick though.
Mind you, every one will buy one, including myself, and eventually put it in a cupboard or on a shelf.
- KVRAF
- 25464 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
It may not be useful for you... but it is not a gimmick. It is a few steps in the direction many players have been dreaming of for years. It offers something real and previously unavailable. As long as I play music an MPE controller will be at the center of my setup.
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- KVRAF
- 2417 posts since 28 Mar, 2007
pdxindy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:23 pm
It may not be useful for you... but it is not a gimmick. It is a few steps in the direction many players have been dreaming of for years. It offers something real and previously unavailable. As long as I play music an MPE controller will be at the center of my setup.
Whoops,sorry, I did not know you had one.
Something similar has been around with breath controllers forever. Midi guitar, a midi-ed violin. And like I said, Ensoniq pushed polyphonic expression back in the 80's and 90's. I watched a guy on youtube playing a Roli to make it sound like a guitar,it sounded pretty amazing,but why ? Just buy an electric guitar and learn to play that.
- KVRAF
- 2032 posts since 15 Mar, 2002 from Seattle, WA - USA
It was mentioned earlier, but I think inspiration really is the answer. There are still certain scenarios where DAW choice could be more limited if there's a need for robust musical notation or scoring to picture, but there's been so much cross-pollination of features over the years that we've reached this saturation point where they're all plenty good enough for making music. For me it really just comes down to whatever environment fosters creativity and perhaps most importantly, productivity.voidhead23 wrote: ↑Sun Oct 07, 2018 11:21 am Open ended question. It seems every season i get the urge to change things up when my current program is pissing me off...but i feel like it's often just the 'grass is always greener' illusion and just an excuse to fret about workflow instead of actually making music.
Are there ever situations where it's a good idea to switch DAWs? What was your experience and reasons, for those that have made this switch?
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- KVRAF
- 2797 posts since 26 Jul, 2015 from Philadelphia
I am a passionate Ableton user, but today’s announcement of Nuendo 8.3 made me seriously consider switching. I am working with immersive Audio a lot and the new Ambisonics capabilities of Nuendo are stunning. Now need to figure out a way to handle Nuendo’s slightly out if reach price point.
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- KVRAF
- 25053 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
Your arguments are reactionary and absurd. Just learn to play violin like "Pearlman" while you're at it.dellboy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 4:49 pmpdxindy wrote: ↑Tue Oct 09, 2018 3:23 pm
It may not be useful for you... but it is not a gimmick. It is a few steps in the direction many players have been dreaming of for years. It offers something real and previously unavailable. As long as I play music an MPE controller will be at the center of my setup.
Whoops,sorry, I did not know you had one.
Something similar has been around with breath controllers forever. Midi guitar, a midi-ed violin. And like I said, Ensoniq pushed polyphonic expression back in the 80's and 90's. I watched a guy on youtube playing a Roli to make it sound like a guitar,it sounded pretty amazing,but why ? Just buy an electric guitar and learn to play that.
You don't actually know what MPE even is, but why not just see if you can be as negative as possible and talk smack to people who actually have a use for it. Sure, everybody should master all the instruments instead! Why do we even have electronic instruments, or a DAW at all? At some point in recent history there was somebody writing editorials to their local newspaper about why should we want a recording of something, just play it and remember it perfectly, there's no need or use for that infernal contraption.