Roland D-20 (do not store user patches)
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- KVRAF
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- 4585 posts since 2 Nov, 2006
I'm about to buy a Roland D-20 for 30€ (I think it's a good price ). The guy says that the instrument do not save user presets; he changed the battery but the synth continue to fail on storing user patches.
Now this is not really a problem for me: the preset sounds are good enough for 30€. BTW does anybody knows (maybe someone which own/owned this synth) if it's possible to fix it?
Cheers,
Max
Now this is not really a problem for me: the preset sounds are good enough for 30€. BTW does anybody knows (maybe someone which own/owned this synth) if it's possible to fix it?
Cheers,
Max
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- KVRAF
- 6939 posts since 4 Jun, 2004 from Utrecht, Holland
Does it remember user presets as long as it's powered on? If so, you can still use tweaked sounds by using sysex midi dumps in your DAW.
If it's not the battery (my first thought as well) then I'm out of ideas.
Looks like a good price indeed... A good friend of mine had a D20, and I liked it a lot.
If it's not the battery (my first thought as well) then I'm out of ideas.
Looks like a good price indeed... A good friend of mine had a D20, and I liked it a lot.
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- KVRAF
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- 4585 posts since 2 Nov, 2006
Yes, if I understood rightC00kie wrote:Does it remember user presets as long as it's powered on?
Right. I used to control all my MIDI instruments by sysex, so it would be a perfect solution...C00kie wrote:If so, you can still use tweaked sounds by using sysex midi dumps in your DAW
Me too Maybe a loose contact in the battery holder? I know for example the Behringer V-Amp often has the same problem and the issue is related with the battery holderC00kie wrote:If it's not the battery (my first thought as well) then I'm out of ideas.
Cheers,
Max
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- 6129 posts since 9 Oct, 2007 from an inharmonious society
Great synth, I owned one for many years.
It should have a floppy disk drive on the right side.
You could save them to a floppy before turning it off.
It should have a floppy disk drive on the right side.
You could save them to a floppy before turning it off.
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- KVRAF
- 2179 posts since 11 Mar, 2003
Sounds a bit odd to me. I had a D-10 and as far as I know they're the same. If you have the factory presets then the battery is working. If the battery weren't working I would imagine those factory presets would disappear as quickly as ussr presets because they're all stored in the same RAM.
You can also store all your patches on a memory card if you can get hold of one. If it can't store to a memory card something is up. But jeez that's cheap - I bought my second-hand D-10 (with flightcase) for £300 back in the day, sold for £160 sometime late.
You can also store all your patches on a memory card if you can get hold of one. If it can't store to a memory card something is up. But jeez that's cheap - I bought my second-hand D-10 (with flightcase) for £300 back in the day, sold for £160 sometime late.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4585 posts since 2 Nov, 2006
@Mr Arkadin: maybe it's the ROM chip which stores the user presets which is gone (I suppose it works like this: the user presets are backed up into a non volatile memory)?
Didn't know it can use memory cards... with a bit of lucky maybe I can find one on ebay. Thanks for the useful infos
Didn't know it can use memory cards... with a bit of lucky maybe I can find one on ebay. Thanks for the useful infos
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- KVRAF
- 2179 posts since 11 Mar, 2003
Well I read one place where there was no ROM reset, now I just read this:
ROM RESET: HOLD TUNE/FUNCTION AND WRITE WHILE POWERING ON
so I'm not sure now - this procedure may only initialise - it may not reload the factory presets as I'm still not sure if they're held in ROM. Anyway the patches are all in RAM, so factory or not they would disappear I'm sure, you would have to reload from ROM (if this is even possible).
ROM RESET: HOLD TUNE/FUNCTION AND WRITE WHILE POWERING ON
so I'm not sure now - this procedure may only initialise - it may not reload the factory presets as I'm still not sure if they're held in ROM. Anyway the patches are all in RAM, so factory or not they would disappear I'm sure, you would have to reload from ROM (if this is even possible).
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- KVRAF
- 2179 posts since 11 Mar, 2003
Just had an idea: make sure Memory Protect is OFF. I think it's in the Tune/Functions menu, scroll around until you find it.
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It uses the quick disks.MaxSynths wrote:It uses standard floppies (or quick disks?)
You can also use the memory card as stated above though.
I had mine repaired once, were it was cutting out, and not saving my own creations. It turned out to be a loose chip.
You might want to have it looked at.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 4585 posts since 2 Nov, 2006
I'm lucky enough, the local store has some packs of QD for 2€. The only problem is the guy which sell the synth is disappeared...
Maybe he's reading here and changed his mind
Maybe he's reading here and changed his mind
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- KVRAF
- 5703 posts since 6 Dec, 2003 from Mission Control
No.. It's a standard DSDD 700K 3.5 disk. Just cover the hole to use a HD disk.mcnoone wrote:It uses the quick disks.MaxSynths wrote:It uses standard floppies (or quick disks?)
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- KVRAF
- 2179 posts since 11 Mar, 2003
Oddly enough when I was after a D-10 a long time ago this happened to me - got to the guy's house and he'd changed his mind after reading the Sound On Sound retro article (he probably thought it would bump up the value a bit - I think it may have).MaxSynths wrote:The only problem is the guy which sell the synth is disappeared...
Maybe he's reading here and changed his mind