Learning scales/chords online? music school?
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- addled muppet weed
- 105553 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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Stamped Records Stamped Records https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=426472
- KVRist
- 349 posts since 20 Sep, 2018 from UK
Maybe so, but I'm a harmony guy.
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Stamped Records Stamped Records https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=426472
- KVRist
- 349 posts since 20 Sep, 2018 from UK
Everybody wants to be a smart arse here, and for that reason, I can't tolerate medieval old farts any longer.
We all know that the tonic of C Major is a C Major chord. So if I happened to feel like my C Major sounded like my tonic, I would be in the key of C Major. But as I say, everybody wants to be a smart arse and act like they don't understand what I'm saying. You know what you are if you argue with idiots.....................
- KVRAF
- 25051 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
Yes. Unequivocally.
Let's take diatonic 7-note scales. If we do the usual, build a triad of thirds in a key, the key has seven chords.
Take any chord out of context and it has no identity. What scale do you arrive at from C major chord per se?
It's V in the key of F: our scale is C major in the key of F?
It's IV in the key of G: our scale is C major in the key of G?
It's unworkable, 0%, bzzzzt, wrong.
Last edited by jancivil on Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:29 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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- addled muppet weed
- 105553 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
you definitely remind me of one of my old teachers.Stamped Records wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:10 pm
Everybody wants to be a smart arse here, and for that reason, I can't tolerate medieval old farts any longer.
We all know that the tonic of C Major is a C Major chord. So if I happened to feel like my C Major sounded like my tonic, I would be in the key of C Major. But as I say, everybody wants to be a smart arse and act like they don't understand what I'm saying. You know what you are if you argue with idiots.....................
he got aggressive when i pointed out his mistakes too.
- KVRAF
- 11001 posts since 15 Apr, 2019 from Nowhere
No one is being a smart ass, they are just pointing out your errors - that’s to help you as much as anyone else.
It’s not that people don’t understand what you’re saying, you’re just not correct in some of the things you say.
Have you stopped to ask yourself why people are saying these things to you? It’s because you seemingly don’t understand theory very well, and people are trying to correct you.
It’s not that people don’t understand what you’re saying, you’re just not correct in some of the things you say.
Have you stopped to ask yourself why people are saying these things to you? It’s because you seemingly don’t understand theory very well, and people are trying to correct you.
- KVRAF
- 25051 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
"We all know that the tonic of C Major is a C Major chord. So if I happened to feel like my C Major sounded like my tonic, I would be in the key of C Major."
That wasn't your statement.
Chances are pretty good it's IV of G.
Unless you modulated. You'll have to work for that, it doesn't appear by magic.
but you won't be able to know the right answer because you're so grand, yeah?
No, I could run an ostinato C D G til the cows come home and if the tonality C is established, known, it is still that thing.
This is simply insufficient to create the new tonality in itself. If key actually is C major, it's merely 1 2 and 5 of that in and of itself. If we call it an arpeggio, it's a C2 (people like 'sus2': 2nd replaces 3rd), still I.
This is a very basic misconception. You have many.
That wasn't your statement.
By the mere appearance of it? So, suddenly every new harmony is a new key/new tonic? In that case there are no other chords in a key but I or i.Take a really simple example; You start a song with a G, then you move to a C chord and at this moment in time our ears are telling us that C is our tonic.
Chances are pretty good it's IV of G.
Unless you modulated. You'll have to work for that, it doesn't appear by magic.
It might tell you...if we play a D after the C, followed by G, the music tells us we are in the key of G.
but you won't be able to know the right answer because you're so grand, yeah?
No, I could run an ostinato C D G til the cows come home and if the tonality C is established, known, it is still that thing.
This is simply insufficient to create the new tonality in itself. If key actually is C major, it's merely 1 2 and 5 of that in and of itself. If we call it an arpeggio, it's a C2 (people like 'sus2': 2nd replaces 3rd), still I.
This is a very basic misconception. You have many.
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laurensarah925 laurensarah925 https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=451576
- KVRer
- 7 posts since 19 Nov, 2019
Thank you for the response. Can you share some online music schools from where I can learn the ABCs of chords and how to play an acoustic guitar?vurt wrote: ↑Sun Oct 20, 2019 5:06 pmnormally you would learn the language before reducing it to a genre (music is music)
by which i mean, most good schools will use classics, so theres a lot more literature aimed at this, which in turn makes it easier to study.
plus, if you're not as in to classical music for listening purposes, you may find it less distracting.
just some bits to think about!
Thanks.
- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
Truculent?Stamped Records wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:10 pm You know what you are if you argue with idiots.....................
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.
- KVRAF
- 25051 posts since 20 Oct, 2007 from gonesville
I argued with idiotic statements, arguing with a person behaving as though they can't discern from pretty easily digested info.Stamped Records wrote: ↑Tue Nov 19, 2019 2:10 pm You know what you are if you argue with idiots.....................
You being the point, well, no.
It probably doesn't lower my intelligence to do it, since the actual motivation is to provide better information on the subject.
- Rad Grandad
- 38044 posts since 6 Sep, 2003 from Downeast Maine
thread locked because the ot bs was carried over to another thread
The highest form of knowledge is empathy, for it requires us to suspend our egos and live in another's world. It requires profound, purpose‐larger‐than‐the‐self kind of understanding.