Best virtual piano?
- Banned
- 2288 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada
Actually, I need to ask, does anyone know what and how much of a difference there is between the sample quality between the Additive Keys stuff (Modern Upright and Studio Grand) and the NI Alicia's Keys & Noire offerings?
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- KVRist
- 250 posts since 1 Mar, 2019
Honestly, it's just a matter of personal taste. Both the NI and Xln audio (addictive keys) pianos are high quality and sound amazing, you can check their official websites or youtube for countless demos and decide what suits you best.
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- KVRist
- 42 posts since 27 Mar, 2020
NI Noire it's an amazing-little dark sound
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- KVRAF
- 7795 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
After having both NI and XLN, dumped both companies for their pianos. Either one will do for general production, but both have "holes" in their velocity range that make them annoying for full range soloing.
Of course, XLN is cheap enough if bought in the secondhand market ($3-$9 per piano or $30 max for all four.)
Personally have been much happier with Pianoteq 6 and Grand 3.
Of course, XLN is cheap enough if bought in the secondhand market ($3-$9 per piano or $30 max for all four.)
Personally have been much happier with Pianoteq 6 and Grand 3.
- KVRAF
- 5510 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
Pianoteq. Hands down.
Once you go Pianoteq there is no going back to samples.
Pianoteq sounds and feels like you're playing a real piano, not a recording; there is no wall between you and the sound. There is no disconnect between performer and instrument like there is with samples.
If money is no object, get Piantoteq Studio.
You will stop thinking in terms of whether or not your track needs a piano, but rather WHICH piano, modern or vintage, how should it be miked, how hard should the hammers be... or maybe you need a fortepiano, a square piano, an electric piano, a virginal, a harpsichord, a clavichord, a clavinet...
Once you go Pianoteq there is no going back to samples.
Pianoteq sounds and feels like you're playing a real piano, not a recording; there is no wall between you and the sound. There is no disconnect between performer and instrument like there is with samples.
If money is no object, get Piantoteq Studio.
You will stop thinking in terms of whether or not your track needs a piano, but rather WHICH piano, modern or vintage, how should it be miked, how hard should the hammers be... or maybe you need a fortepiano, a square piano, an electric piano, a virginal, a harpsichord, a clavichord, a clavinet...
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- KVRAF
- 6113 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America
The dynamics are usually where sampled pianos fall down for me. I prefer PianoTeq, as a result.
Granted, I thought the 256MB Akai Splendid Grand Piano was nice at one time (with lots of reverb), so samples can be good at times too... but I won’t go back.
Granted, I thought the 256MB Akai Splendid Grand Piano was nice at one time (with lots of reverb), so samples can be good at times too... but I won’t go back.
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- KVRAF
- 6113 posts since 7 Jan, 2005 from Corporate States of America
I have been lamenting reading about all these people supposedly giving away pianos because they don’t want them and can’t sell them... because I’ve no space to adopt one.
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- KVRAF
- 2194 posts since 18 Mar, 2006 from Plymouth, UK
Another vote for pianoteq. It's my go-to 'need a piano'. I still have other samples / products for more 'character' options in the mix for variety, but pianoteq is the one I use for writing or just noodling around and will only be layered or replaced if it doesn't feel like it fits.
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- 2288 posts since 24 Mar, 2015 from Toronto, Canada
yeah. lots of free piano ads in my area. they are usually just cheapo pianos. but bechsteins. you have to pay for moving them and tuning. but they are okay for free. lots of organs also given away for free.Jace-BeOS wrote: ↑Sun Apr 26, 2020 3:09 amI have been lamenting reading about all these people supposedly giving away pianos because they don’t want them and can’t sell them... because I’ve no space to adopt one.
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- KVRAF
- 7397 posts since 20 Jul, 2004 from Clearwater
NI Noire is where it's at.
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- KVRAF
- 5510 posts since 2 Sep, 2019
Do this with Pianoteq:
Hold a chord down in the bass using your left hand. Press the notes gently so they do not sound, but keep them held.
Now stab the same chord with your right hand a few octave up, fast and hard, pulling your hand from the keys quickly. Keep holding down the chord in you left hand.
Try that with a sampled piano.
Now understand that that is at work with every note you play on Pianoteq. It’s called sympathetic resonance, and real pianos have it. This is why you are wasting your time if you are using samples.
Hold a chord down in the bass using your left hand. Press the notes gently so they do not sound, but keep them held.
Now stab the same chord with your right hand a few octave up, fast and hard, pulling your hand from the keys quickly. Keep holding down the chord in you left hand.
Try that with a sampled piano.
Now understand that that is at work with every note you play on Pianoteq. It’s called sympathetic resonance, and real pianos have it. This is why you are wasting your time if you are using samples.
Last edited by jamcat on Sun Apr 26, 2020 8:47 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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- KVRAF
- 35436 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
I like NI The Grandeur. As has been mentioned though, it really depends on your personal preference. So many different pianos.
- KVRist
- 38 posts since 21 Apr, 2020