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Chris Roberson · Post by **Chris Roberson** » Mon Sep 23, 2019 11:59 pm

Hello everyone,

I haven't really done a great deal of writing music on my PC in quite a while, looking to get back into that side of electronic music more vs. just synth programming and live performance.

When I more regularly created, I was using Computer Muzys 1.5, so very bare-bones but free and I became quite good with it. Now, that software just about won't work at all, between it being so old and 64-bit plus VST3 becoming more prolific.

My question, as much of a stretch as it may be, is: can anyone recommend a DAW with a workflow/interface that is at least in the same ballpark as Muzys? I couldn't really get any traction with Live and though I think FL is close in some areas, some of the key shortcuts as well as mouse operations are completely counter-intuitive after coming from Muzys.

Any thoughts and suggestions are greatly appreciated.

Cheers,
- Chris

Schmidi · Post by **Schmidi** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 3:18 am

I'm not familiar with Muzys, but I just recently discovered Acoustica Mixcraft and I really like it so far. Great price, VERY stable, VERY intuitive, has some decent included content, and it has a lite (but handy) version of Ableton's session clips.

I'm tired of Ableton's bloat over the last couple versions, and it's become too unstable and unfocused on live performance. That and it's way expensive.

I liked the Tracktion concept, but it was too unstable.

dakkra · Post by **dakkra** » Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:46 am

Hello!

Mulab could be considered the spiritual successor to Muzys. I'd definitely give that a look if you're looking for a similar workflow.

Technology wise, I'd say Bitwig, FLS, Studio One, or Ableton would be the places to look for features/modern workflows. Bitwig is my happy middle ground as it combines a lot of the workflow of a traditional DAW with the freedoms of a modular architecture. FLS and Ableton are the "standard" right now. They both have a lot of support and are tried and tested. Studio One is more in line with a "professionals" workflow. It's got tools for almost everything, but it can feel a bit overwhelming/large for a purely synthetic project.

janiq · Post by **janiq** » Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:14 pm

To be honest maybe you should give bitwig a go. I know this is something similar to live but with what is included in version 3 this is a great environonment for electronic experimenting and music creation.

Regards

Wojtek

https://stereosound.pl

reggie1979 · Post by **reggie1979** » Tue Oct 01, 2019 10:58 am

Have you tried reaper yet?

(oh, you cheeky bastard! )

Passing Bye · Post by **Passing Bye** » Tue Oct 01, 2019 12:06 pm

Bitwig

AsPeeXXXVIII · Post by **AsPeeXXXVIII** » Tue Oct 01, 2019 12:11 pm

I second REAPER. It's at least one of the more user-friendly DAWs, with its customizability and selection of custom themes and whatnot.

kvotchin · Post by **kvotchin** » Tue Oct 01, 2019 12:18 pm

Mulab looks to be the closest.

chk071 · Post by **chk071** » Tue Oct 01, 2019 12:28 pm

Yeah, i assume MuLab should be the thing to look at, as it seems to have been developed by the same dev as Muzys.

Tj Shredder · Post by **Tj Shredder** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 6:18 am

chk071 wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2019 12:28 pm Yeah, i assume MuLab should be the thing to look at, as it seems to have been developed by the same dev as Muzys.

https://www.mutools.com/company-bioref.html

ramseysounds · Post by **ramseysounds** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:10 pm

List every known DAW here. Go.

heavymetalmixer · Post by **heavymetalmixer** » Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:25 pm

Reaper. Maybe it's not the most user-friendly if you're focusing on making beats or arrangements, but its workflow is actually very simple, easy to understand and to get used to, unlike most DAWs out there.

reggie1979 · Post by **reggie1979** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 3:23 am

ramseysounds wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 12:10 pm List every known DAW here. Go.

But you didn't list one, point shaved!

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:09 pm

I've no idea about Muzys, but Bitwig or Studio One should be the ones to check - the former if you want more free-form, modular and performance-based experience, the latter for a more traditional workflow. Think of the as nwere, less bloated and more modern versions of Live and Cubase respectively.

biscuitdough · Post by **biscuitdough** » Thu Oct 03, 2019 1:48 pm

heavymetalmixer wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 7:25 pm Reaper. Maybe it's not the most user-friendly if you're focusing on making beats or arrangements, but its workflow is actually very simple, easy to understand and to get used to, unlike most DAWs out there.

Except how it handles takes, which is completely insane. I've only used Reaper for recording live bands, so it may not come up as much for ITB electronic music. Reaper takes are f**king dogshit though, and it's easy to accidentally use them.

https://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=210747

http://admiralbumblebee.com/music/2018/ ... nd-Me.html

Picking back up after hiatus, DAW recommendations?