Best all in one synth for beginners?
- KVRAF
- 18546 posts since 16 Sep, 2001 from Las Vegas,USA
Back in my day this was the best all in one instrument:
Sorry, thought the thread could use a bit of levity.
I agree with Synthmaster One and it's bigger brother. But to me "all in one" describes VPS Avenger perfectly.
Not sure it's in your budget but if I'm not mistaken there have been a couple of second hand licenses in the Marketplace recently.
Sorry, thought the thread could use a bit of levity.
I agree with Synthmaster One and it's bigger brother. But to me "all in one" describes VPS Avenger perfectly.
Not sure it's in your budget but if I'm not mistaken there have been a couple of second hand licenses in the Marketplace recently.
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- KVRian
- 506 posts since 10 Nov, 2018
@OP, I suggest Surge
https://surge-synthesizer.github.io
It is a really powerful and easy to use free Synth that you must try, before buying a commercial one. It's quite stable now and is also undergoing a lot of enhancements/but fixes. Go try it out, you'll be amazed
https://surge-synthesizer.github.io
It is a really powerful and easy to use free Synth that you must try, before buying a commercial one. It's quite stable now and is also undergoing a lot of enhancements/but fixes. Go try it out, you'll be amazed
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- KVRAF
- 25391 posts since 3 Feb, 2005 from in the wilds
Zebra is a great synth for learning. It can do subtractive, FM, additive, wavetable and some physical modeling. Each of them is not complex to understand and work with so easy to learn on and develop some understanding of that synthesis type. Because it is semi-modular, you can try all sorts of things and see how they sound. It has a very good balance of capability without being overwhelming.
It can be simple... just put in a single Osc and explore. Doesn't use too much CPU, super stable and well supported.
It can be simple... just put in a single Osc and explore. Doesn't use too much CPU, super stable and well supported.
- KVRAF
- 12555 posts since 7 Dec, 2004
"The best all-in-one" is sort of contradictory because it's trying to simplify and narrow things down to a single point by specifying everything... like the whole universe in a bottle?
The reality you have to be very aware of is big "mega-everything-synths" are great when you need flexibility, but that flexibility can seriously kill inspiration and how you enjoy using the instrument.
Sometimes when you just want to make a banjo sound; the solution is a banjo.
The reality you have to be very aware of is big "mega-everything-synths" are great when you need flexibility, but that flexibility can seriously kill inspiration and how you enjoy using the instrument.
Sometimes when you just want to make a banjo sound; the solution is a banjo.
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- KVRAF
- 3735 posts since 17 Sep, 2016
Surge would be an excellent first choice for a free synth to learn synth programming on!exponent1 wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:24 pm @OP, I suggest Surge
https://surge-synthesizer.github.io
It is a really powerful and easy to use free Synth that you must try, before buying a commercial one. It's quite stable now and is also undergoing a lot of enhancements/but fixes. Go try it out, you'll be amazed
It is one of the synths covered in the free ebook "How to Make a Noise: a Comprehensive Guide to Synthesizer Programming", by Simon Cann.
KVR topic "How to make a noise: Free Book": viewtopic.php?f=100&t=76293
Author's webpage: https://noisesculpture.com/how-to-make- ... ogramming/
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- KVRist
- 104 posts since 30 Nov, 2018 from U.S.
I agree...just recently been "getting into" u-he synth demos and that would be a great pick if it's not out of your budget. Also, you're going to want a useful, as well as, fun sequencer. u-he's repro is probably my favorite one so far. Repro https://u-he.com/products/repro/sounds insanely good to my ears too...no wavetable's though, if that's a requirement...
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- KVRian
- 506 posts since 10 Nov, 2018
In addition to my suggestion of trying Surge, I'd like to tell you that there are very few All-in-one synths which would be in your budget. In case you do want to buy, these are the ones:Danilo Villanova wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:53 am Do you have any other recommendations for an all-in-one type synth that will get me far? Thanks!
- Synthmaster
- Pigments
- Avenger
- Icarus
- Falcon
Then again, I still recommend Surge and Modulair.
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- KVRAF
- 3959 posts since 10 Sep, 2010 from A shit hole (Ireland).
Yep... Like I said He's a moron.whyterabbyt wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 2:06 pmIts not your place to do that. The procedure if a thread is in the wrong place is to contact a moderator, not abitrarily decide youre in charge of who posts what.Elektronisch wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 1:42 pmIm telling this to people who always responds to those threads (they know who they are). And again you clearly misinterpretating. Im not suggesting NOT TO HELP. Dont get butthurt where you shouldnt.
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- KVRAF
- 3959 posts since 10 Sep, 2010 from A shit hole (Ireland).
Surge is a great synth. But for a beginner, I think the interface is a little off-putting. No harm in trying it!
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 986 posts since 30 Apr, 2018
I'm sorry for posting in the wrong section (maybe a mod can move the thread?). Thanks to all who responded. I will go with one of the free substractive ones and go as far as I can with it.
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- KVRian
- 792 posts since 1 Aug, 2016
I'd recommend VPS Avenger. You can get it used on here for around $130 and at that price it's a steal. It's "All in one" and covers a lot of ground, has excellent sound, and there's a lot of visual feedback that will be helpful for a beginner. For example, when you adjust envelopes you can visually see what it's doing. At the same time, it won't overwhelm you with complexity because it has a great UI. But you can grow into it over time.
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- KVRist
- 356 posts since 3 Oct, 2009
How about something like Full Buckets Blooo? Or the Mono/Poly emu? Or TAL's Noisemaker?
They are free and have straightforward architecture,...learn subtractive synthesis then make the progression.
They are free and have straightforward architecture,...learn subtractive synthesis then make the progression.
- Banned
- 697 posts since 29 Oct, 2016
This thread should be moved to 'Getting Started' forum. Everyone here already knows 'advice, recommendation and opinion' threads are just threads for companies to promote and hype their products. Such threads produce virtually no value for readers.
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- KVRAF
- 7789 posts since 28 Apr, 2013
Maybe give us a little more detail on what makes it "all-in-one"? e.g. Synthesis types, w/ or w/o effects, ability to use wave tables, samples, etc.Danilo Villanova wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 11:53 am Do you have any other recommendations for an all-in-one type synth that will get me far? Thanks!
Download everything you can that's free or has a demo. Synthmaster has a free version, U-he has Zebralette (which is the only free one with effects afair). Native Instruments has a free bundle. Rapid and Avenger have demos for those kind of a-i-o's. Analog Lab demo is another good demo to get further ideas of narrowing in your chosen requirements.
Because... YMMV!
And remember guys, if a "newbie" posted perfectly the first time, then they're probably not really a "newbie".
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- Beware the Quoth
- 33155 posts since 4 Sep, 2001 from R'lyeh Oceanic Amusement Park and Funfair