Online mastering service: Is Landr better than CloudBounce?
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 66 posts since 19 Jul, 2012
I am using CloudBounce to master my songs and am happy.
However, apparently, Landr is the most famous automatic mastering service.
Could you assess whether Landr is better?
Thank you for your advice.
However, apparently, Landr is the most famous automatic mastering service.
Could you assess whether Landr is better?
Thank you for your advice.
- KVRAF
- 8816 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
„Automatic“ and „Master“ is a contradiction... But maybe I am too old school...
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- KVRAF
- 1520 posts since 23 Feb, 2017
Check out Aria Mastering, I did a test a couple of years ago with Landr, Cloudbounce and Aria, Aria sounded the best to me followed by Landr then Cloudbounce.
Signatures are so early 2000s.
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logifuzz-vst-plugins logifuzz-vst-plugins https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=434377
- KVRist
- 160 posts since 25 Jan, 2019 from Brazil
If it's automatic it can be done better in your DAW with proper plugins even with fixed settings.
"I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not too sure."
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- KVRAF
- 15207 posts since 8 Mar, 2005 from Utrecht, Holland
Yes but which plugins and which settings exactly?logifuzz-vst-plugins wrote: ↑Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:08 am If it's automatic it can be done better in your DAW with proper plugins even with fixed settings.
If you know that, you have unveiled a trading secret and can start your own service
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- KVRian
- 1139 posts since 16 May, 2007 from At home. Good bye city ways!
It’s automatic and it’s not static settings.
..off to play with my music toys - library music production.
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Distorted Horizon Distorted Horizon https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=392076
- Banned
- 3882 posts since 17 Jan, 2017 from Planet of cats
They're pretty much the same and I'm not sure if I can recommend either.. Do it yourself.. Create your sound..
- KVRAF
- 6969 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
An alternative is iZotope Ozone.
My go-to for the master bus (combined with Neutron on the single tracks or subgroups).
My go-to for the master bus (combined with Neutron on the single tracks or subgroups).
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- KVRer
- 22 posts since 2 Feb, 2019
I agree with Martinjuenke. If you're not going to hire a professional to do your mastering then Ozone is the next best thing imo. The assistant will get you to a good starting point and then you can make adjustments from there. You can even load in references if you have a specific song/genre your aiming for.
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- KVRAF
- 2505 posts since 13 Jun, 2008 from Napier,New Zealand
This guy isn't popular around here... but I like him. This is quite interesting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BinWO5X8jk4
And then this goes a bit further;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR7WV_F0GCQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BinWO5X8jk4
And then this goes a bit further;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IR7WV_F0GCQ
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- KVRist
- 384 posts since 15 Jan, 2003
The results between the different automated mastering services will probably vary between songs and application settings.
In spite of creating my own final masters for years, I have subscriptions to CloudBounce and eMastered to use as test references against my own work and provide quick demos to collaborators after studio sessions. I have also tested Landr and Aria within the past year.
With that said, if a solid mix is furnished, all of the aforementioned automated mastering services perform a fairly decent job and, through machine learning and customer feedback, will continue to improve in the future. Overall, with either option, the results will probably be more than sufficient for low-budget, indie releases.
Therefore, I would test several tracks to determine which, or any, service you like the best; in regards to sound, workflow and price.
In spite of creating my own final masters for years, I have subscriptions to CloudBounce and eMastered to use as test references against my own work and provide quick demos to collaborators after studio sessions. I have also tested Landr and Aria within the past year.
With that said, if a solid mix is furnished, all of the aforementioned automated mastering services perform a fairly decent job and, through machine learning and customer feedback, will continue to improve in the future. Overall, with either option, the results will probably be more than sufficient for low-budget, indie releases.
Therefore, I would test several tracks to determine which, or any, service you like the best; in regards to sound, workflow and price.
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- KVRAF
- 1725 posts since 9 Jul, 2014 from UK
Define best
I wonder what happens if I press this button...
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- KVRian
- 1030 posts since 26 Feb, 2018
if you are going to use an automated tool, try this:
Automatic mastering with free tools
1. Youlean Meter to figure out your LUFS
https://youlean.co/youlean-loudness-meter/
2. Limiter 6
https://vladgsound.wordpress.com/plugins/limiter6/
No-knowledge mastering:
- Activate Limiter 6 (peaks control). Try out the presets, hear a few sections of the song to see which preset best suits your material. Aim for -1db ceiling.
- Use Youlean Meter to make sure you are setting your LUFS (average loudness) level to the desired export. -14 LUFS for Spotify.
As a bonus, play around with the Limiter 6 settings and you'd be learning about loudness while you are getting an easy master out of it.
Automatic mastering with free tools
1. Youlean Meter to figure out your LUFS
https://youlean.co/youlean-loudness-meter/
2. Limiter 6
https://vladgsound.wordpress.com/plugins/limiter6/
No-knowledge mastering:
- Activate Limiter 6 (peaks control). Try out the presets, hear a few sections of the song to see which preset best suits your material. Aim for -1db ceiling.
- Use Youlean Meter to make sure you are setting your LUFS (average loudness) level to the desired export. -14 LUFS for Spotify.
As a bonus, play around with the Limiter 6 settings and you'd be learning about loudness while you are getting an easy master out of it.
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- KVRAF
- 2265 posts since 30 Aug, 2004 from Lancaster, UK
A similar, and pretty new, option to Ozone is Blackbox by Nammick: https://www.kvraudio.com/product/blackb ... al/details
I have tried it and liked how it worked. Haven't compared it to other software or services though.
I have tried it and liked how it worked. Haven't compared it to other software or services though.
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Go MuLab!
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- KVRer
- 22 posts since 11 Nov, 2018
Another +1 for Ozone. In addition to the Assistant function that does a pretty solid job giving you either some ideas or a starting place to work with, there are a ton of genre or sound/style presets to give you some more ideas and/or starting places.
If the price tag is overly intimidating, Ozone 8/Neutron 2 can be had via subscription.
If the price tag is overly intimidating, Ozone 8/Neutron 2 can be had via subscription.