Personally I prefer sounds that do stand well on their own and create their own musical context. Sounds that inspire musical exploration are more useful to me than "sitting well in a mix'.chk071 wrote:I think that's what separates the good from the so-so sound designers. Especially many factory presets are absolutely unusable for me in any musical context. At least i wouldn't know how to use them in it... others - immediately usable.Zexila wrote:Some folks got skills, but they ain't everyone's cup of tea, what I dig about some sound designers is how well they made their patches to be used in musical&mix context, not to wow you played in isolation/on their own.
Who are the top ten patch sound designers ?
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- 35276 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
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- 35410 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Maybe, but some patches simply sound as if they were made on a planet where they never heard of any music we do here, if you get me. I guess that's a good thing for some people, but, frankly, i wouldn't really know for what kind of music i am supposed to use some patches, as i mentioned, mostly factory patches. Some sound designers really have a weird perception of what people would like, or, use in music. Won't name names. They know who they are.
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- 35276 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
Well maybe they want to make music and sounds no one has heard of, it's called creativity.
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- 2625 posts since 2 Jun, 2016
^^ Indeed; one man's potato is another man's potatoe...
Personally, I like slightly off kilter sounds if I buy presets, such as machinery noises or weird electric gurnings
The traditional brass sounds I can design alright by myself.
Personally, I like slightly off kilter sounds if I buy presets, such as machinery noises or weird electric gurnings
The traditional brass sounds I can design alright by myself.
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- 35276 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
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- 35410 posts since 11 Apr, 2010 from Germany
Frankly, some sounds simply sound out of this world, and not in a good way. Each to his like, sure, but, if you really feel like they won't be useful for any kind of music you could imagine? Mmh... could just sample the sound of a toilet flushing too then, and claim that it's really innovative. Anyway, i get your point, and you're surely right. To some extent.
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- 3186 posts since 18 Mar, 2008
Personally I make almost whole thing on piano than choose the appropriate sounds, explore more musical side, than production techniques and sound mangling, also do more generic and boring music without much weirdness in it.aMUSEd wrote:Personally I prefer sounds that do stand well on their own and create their own musical context. Sounds that inspire musical exploration are more useful to me than "sitting well in a mix'.chk071 wrote:I think that's what separates the good from the so-so sound designers. Especially many factory presets are absolutely unusable for me in any musical context. At least i wouldn't know how to use them in it... others - immediately usable.Zexila wrote:Some folks got skills, but they ain't everyone's cup of tea, what I dig about some sound designers is how well they made their patches to be used in musical&mix context, not to wow you played in isolation/on their own.
This entire forum is wading through predictions, opinions, barely formed thoughts, drama, and whining. If you don't enjoy that, why are you here? ShawnG
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- 2578 posts since 24 Oct, 2000 from skelmersdale, west lancs, uk
Have to put my oar in:
Modern category presets:
> Manuel Schleis
> Kevin Schroder
Very few duds from either of these golden eared guys.
Eric Persing has golden ears, but he's not so active or inventive these days. Fair enough.
I'm always searching for designers who can craft great sounds, so I don't mind which style the sound is in.
If it's a great sound it'll have some quality that shines through the genre.
Modern category presets:
> Manuel Schleis
> Kevin Schroder
Very few duds from either of these golden eared guys.
Eric Persing has golden ears, but he's not so active or inventive these days. Fair enough.
I'm always searching for designers who can craft great sounds, so I don't mind which style the sound is in.
If it's a great sound it'll have some quality that shines through the genre.
Member 12, Studio One v6.5, VPS Avenger, Kontakt 7, Spitfire, Dune, Arturia, Sonible, Baby Audio, CableGuys, Nektar Panorama P1, Vaporizer 2 to test out
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- 338 posts since 24 Oct, 2006
aMUSEd wrote:Well maybe they want to make music and sounds no one has heard of, it's called creativity.
i've noticed your a patch designer, i was trying out tyrell n6 the other day i uninstalled it nice patches but that synths not for me , you got a website ?
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- 338 posts since 24 Oct, 2006
chk071 wrote:Maybe, but some patches simply sound as if they were made on a planet where they never heard of any music we do here, if you get me. I guess that's a good thing for some people, but, frankly, i wouldn't really know for what kind of music i am supposed to use some patches, as i mentioned, mostly factory patches. Some sound designers really have a weird perception of what people would like, or, use in music. Won't name names. They know who they are.
man you gotta name names
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- KVRAF
- 2212 posts since 28 Jul, 2003
It's listed in his signature, dopey!BUNJA wrote:aMUSEd wrote:Well maybe they want to make music and sounds no one has heard of, it's called creativity.
i've noticed your a patch designer, i was trying out tyrell n6 the other day i uninstalled it nice patches but that synths not for me , you got a website ?
My main tools: Kontakt, Omnisphere, Samplemodeling + Audio Modeling. Akai VIP = godsend. Tari's libraries also rock.
- KVRAF
- 35276 posts since 14 Sep, 2002 from In teh net
In my sig. Not really a patch 'designer' though - I just share presets I make in the course of making music but the preset creation is very much a by-product of that, not a goal in itself, and I rarely* 'design' sounds with others' needs in mind - they are made for my own purposes, but that doesn't mean others may not find them useful starting points too at times.BUNJA wrote:aMUSEd wrote:Well maybe they want to make music and sounds no one has heard of, it's called creativity.
i've noticed your a patch designer, i was trying out tyrell n6 the other day i uninstalled it nice patches but that synths not for me , you got a website ?
* except occasionally when I'm asked to contribute towards factory patches for a plugin as a beta tester
- KVRAF
- 5564 posts since 13 Jan, 2005 from the bottom of my heart
kevvvvv wrote:Very few duds from either of these golden eared guys.
Eric Persing has golden ears, but he's not so active or inventive these days. Fair enough.
Whoever wants music instead of noise, joy instead of pleasure, soul instead of gold, creative work instead of business, passion instead of foolery, finds no home in this trivial world of ours.
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- KVRAF
- 16369 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
On both counts, 100% Yes!aMUSEd wrote:Good point, actually I also like Diego Stoccodeastman wrote:Three pages and no one has mentioned Eric Persing yet?!