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[ShawnG]

Well at least Shawn you can now tell the difference between when I'm neutral about something and trying to help the product by stating good and bad points, and making solid suggestions, versus just stating the truth about it and not expanding any further.

But its funny how you came up with "Can't wait till you get 'steinberged''' insult like its actually a thing... are you trashing your former daw Shawn? And then you took my praise about Reaper and instead made it about you.

Cubase isn't my former DAW, it's one of my current DAWs. it's also a DAW I have 20 years of on/off experience with, not one or 2 weeks. Actually, I don't talk about my former DAWs as a general rule, because in general I don't find it helpful. Moving on means moving on.

And it is actually a thing. Cubase is good enough though that it outweighs the negative aspects of an occasional Steinberging. Hopefully you think so too when it happens to you.

[Harry_HH]

Well at least Shawn you can now tell the difference between when I'm neutral about something and trying to help the product by stating good and bad points, and making solid suggestions, versus just stating the truth about it and not expanding any further.

But its funny how you came up with "Can't wait till you get 'steinberged''' insult like its actually a thing... are you trashing your former daw Shawn? And then you took my praise about Reaper and instead made it about you.

Cubase isn't my former DAW, it's one of my current DAWs. it's also a DAW I have 20 years of on/off experience with, not one or 2 weeks. Actually, I don't talk about my former DAWs as a general rule, because in general I don't find it helpful. Moving on means moving on.

And it is actually a thing. Cubase is good enough though that it outweighs the negative aspects of an occasional Steinberging. Hopefully you think so too when it happens to you.

For us, who have no experience of the Cubase, can you define ”steinberging”.

[v1o]

Core issues with any new software happens in the early part after installation, or after an update, and even then most stem from human error or computer itself having been subjected to all sorts of porn.vst, email.dummy.opened, unknownsite.visit, iboughtadell.noideathehardware, unsecure.browser.whatsanextension, iusemypcforeverything.and.so.do.my.kids, idontuseclonesoftware.unprepared, etc.

I couldn't be happier man, Cubase ticks every box I ever wanted, and rolls out the red carpet of features I never knew I needed, with lightning fast workflow and I'm barely scratching the surface -- there won't be any issues in MY future I'm unable to handle. Ryan and any other pc.illiterate otoh.. good luck, but you may want to reconsider calling something garbage, especially while being videoed and posting on YT, if you have little to no knowledge on the subject.

That’s what everyone says during the DAW honeymoon stage. I’ll give it five years and see if you stick around for the long haul.

[v1o]

He gets paid to tell you how bad Cubase is

Cubase isn’t perfect, in many ways it’s archaic and non intuitive to new users not tuned to its idiosyncrasies, I agree with everything this guy says says.

https://youtu.be/uWKjNju-6pg

[v1o]

CPU use is not Cubase's strength. But it excels at most everything else.

Only Reaper can claim the "CPU is my Strength". Every other DAW except Reason (still) is about equal in that regard.

Sorry. Confused by your wording. Are you saying Reason is least CPU resource hungry? What about compared to Ableton?

In case anyone cares, and isn't going to brow-beat me, I found Cubase's CPU usage to be behind the curve frankly. You can debate about it all you want, but it's just my experience. No need to get all wonky here..............

It’s early days, but it seems quite CPU efficient on my rig, running about 80 plugin tracks and effects without even stressing the CPU at all. I’ve not run into any limits yet. I believe power users like Junkie XL and Hans Zimmers use song templates with upwards of 1000 tracks without issue.

[WasteLand]

He gets paid to tell you how bad Cubase is

Cubase isn’t perfect, in many ways it’s archaic and non intuitive to new users not tuned to its idiosyncrasies, I agree with everything this guy says says.

https://youtu.be/uWKjNju-6pg

every daw is personal, a agree cubase isn't perfect, but for sound design, or crazy songs, with again sound effect design, ha! i can cubase fully, also great for arrangments, the possibilities cubase offers (there are flaws, but they do not bother me, a plugin solves many things..). i can make great electronic music in it.

but i can also do that in maschine or ableton 10 live suite. but all 3: i get different results.

my personal experience, cubase as a tool, production tool, production and sounds, mix etc. are in my case not steps after eachother, but i do it all in one environment.

not to say, that studio one can be greater, and more perfect for others (i do not know much about studio one), or bitwig for that matter, that have nice things i miss in cubase, but load a modular, or modular effects, and the difference disappears a little. it is nice how all is in bitwig. but ableton, with m4l, gives a lot of modulation options.

in cubase i mainly use automation, that works also great, modulation i work a lot with (a lot of soft-modular instruments and effects), but automation has also his merits.

a long story, about one remark the guy made in that video. i do not feel that i am limited in cubase.

[chk071]

Unfortunately, no DAW is perfect... they all have their strengths, and shortcomings. That shouldn't result in a total inability to cope with any DAW though. I chose the one which i consider the best, and which fits me the best. Doesn't mean i wouldn't want to have some things from other DAW's, just, that the whole package seems the best to me.

For Cubase, i can understand why some people consider it "archaic". It has a couple of things it should really get rid of by now. It's on a good way of doing that though, for example i find it fantastic that it has adapted things like drag & drop instrument and fx adding like in Studio One, and the one window setup. And, if they implement a nice and easy MIDI learn setup as well, and tidy up the track inspector, it would become quite a killer DAW.

[jancivil]

Quick Controls is archaic. But so is MCU control IMO, unconfigurable mystery control, so many things have happened since which it can never deal with, but some people probably still rely on it Controlling the transport is very low (0) priority for me. Fortunately afaic there's very little actual need to/always another way.

[jancivil]

Any DAW that doesn't have Time Warp is prehistoric IMO. And that's most of the ones people think are so modern. I know of 3 other DAWs and one does it by an extension script. Some things only recently got with time signatures other than 4/4.

[Psuper]

Jan speaks the truth.

However 'archaic' is not a bad thing nor something easy to define as everyone has different needs and workflow comfort - and those needs and workflows define what DAW is 'best' per individual. I came from hardware (archaic to some) starting in the 70s, and Reason was my need and comfort for a long time on the computer. As my needs grew and the Propellerheads platform didn't, workflow became restricted and I supplemented. Rinse repeat, most of us have these experiences if they've been around awhile.

However, some DAWS can cover ALL of some peoples needs and workflow comfort, and that coverage is the defining point of 'best'. Right now it's Cubase for me, by miles. Something like Quick Controls may not be as ideal as right clicking and learning automation everywhere, its not something I use often -- so setting up the 4 faders and 4 knobs to the things I use the most works perfect. But everything else I needed, it covers in droves with seamless workflows, and invites me to discover more - I haven't been this excited to learn a new DAW in a long time. Coming from years of Hardware/Midiloopback/Cakewalk/Reason/Reaper needed tenacity and ability to work with varied and more complicated systems - so something as easy and inviting as Cubase makes things... Winner Winner Chicken Dinner!

[Funkybot's Evil Twin]

A Studio One-like MIDI Learn/Remote Control system is my top request for Cubase. The Quick Controls are just terribly limited and Genetic Remote system is next to useless with most hardware. Outside of that, Cubase is the closest thing to a feature complete DAW for my needs. Definitely not perfect, still in need of some workflow and CPU refinement, but in terms of big features, Cubase has almost every box checked for me. Studio One is great too, up until I start bumping into it's very limited MIDI features. My ideal DAW has Studio One's workflow and Control Link, Cubase's MIDI features, audio from either, and Reaper's CPU performance.

[chk071]

A Studio One-like MIDI Learn/Remote Control system is my top request for Cubase. The Quick Controls are just terribly limited and Genetic Remote system is next to useless with most hardware.

Yep. If they do that, i'll have to seriously reconsider my DAW choice.

[Psuper]

I agree, its the only thing I miss from Reason which also implements automation the same effortless way, but again I pretty much just use 4 faders for the majority of my automation so QC is fine. However you can right click learn with the VSTs inside Cubase, which I'd think is what most people would need outside of set automation functions consistent with core DAW controls.

Very low on my priority list, but ya would be nice.

[chk071]

Yeah, if a soft synth supports MIDI learn ,then that's cool of course. Unfortunately, one of my favorites (Largo) doesn't, so, i'd have to use a special MIDI mapping on my keyboard for that purpose. I can understand why it doesn't support MIDI learn though (compatibility with the Blofeld's controls).

[THE INTRANCER]

The only tick boxes that Presonus need to to tick off for me with Studio One, are improved fonts, ( i.e better ones that are better defined, not so crammed together, and thin. Making them more emboldened so they don't suffer from that aliasing, and a video track time line with some basic video editing features...Surround Sound support would be nice but isn't absolutely essential for my needs just yet. Anything else that Presonus provides beyond that is really just a bonus... Other than those, it has all the other bases covered for my needs. Never needed notation, it brings back nightmares of having to do homework back in 2nd year of highschool for a witch of a music teacher. I'm not using hardware from the 80's and 1990's any more so system exclusive, bulk dump stuff is old hat. Did that with Octamed and backups to floppies....

Funny watching that guys summary of Cubase 10, it was a mirror image of feelings in what I felt whilst trying it out for awhile. Like being in a boxing match with one hand tied around your back all the time. Then you look down and find that one of your legs has been replaced in an operation, to which you find that's it wooden and has nuts and bolts holding it together. Those nuts are well polished and there's a nice coat of varnish, but it does feel heavy regardless. The bell rings and you go sit in the corner, you take a look at your face in a mirror, and things aren't quite as pretty as you thought they were.... you're a mutant...