Arrangement view in Ableton Live is a nightmare! Any tips?

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Guenon wrote:No problem man :)

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(The above is my interpretation of "Arrangement view in Ableton Live is a nigthmare!" :P :P The ugly motion blur is an in-DAW look too, haha, had a mishap when editing the theme file in a text editor and literally made a motion blur theme that is completely unusable)
Haha good stuff :tu:

(You could publish that artwork as: "How a Cubase user sees Live's arrangement" :lol: )

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Shit, Ableton is the best god-damn daw on the frick'n planet and anyone who says otherwise is a frick'n moron :lol:

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Ableton Suite package has hidden device. It's named Cult.

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Complaining that Live is "limited" is quite the ignorant statement.

Live can do virtually anything other DAWs can. Sure, some things it doesn't do better...

What Live does do better, though, it does so much better that it's not even funny.

On the other hand, people complaining that Live is limited and it's only good for electronic music, helps the rest of us who love Live. That way we are fewer & we stand a chance of doing something truly unique that way.

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Wow, huge necro..but I find arrangement workflow in Live amazing, especially now in beta 10.1

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There's three things that I hate in this world. Liver, grapefruit, and Ableton Lives arrangement view. The only way I can work with Live is with my Push 2 and the session view. After that, everything goes to Cubase 10. Takes me no more than 10 minutes in that arrangement view to want to put a hammer right through the freaking monitor screen.
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Abletons limitations become clear when you want to record vocals, there's no native pitch editing, no real vocal track comping and worse of all it doesn't have ARA2 support.

kunda311 wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:16 am Complaining that Live is "limited" is quite the ignorant statement.

Live can do virtually anything other DAWs can. Sure, some things it doesn't do better...

What Live does do better, though, it does so much better that it's not even funny.

On the other hand, people complaining that Live is limited and it's only good for electronic music, helps the rest of us who love Live. That way we are fewer & we stand a chance of doing something truly unique that way.

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SoundPorn wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:47 am Abletons limitations become clear when you want to record vocals, there's no native pitch editing, no real vocal track comping
Those actually sound more like limitations of vocalists
Sweet child in time...

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Orbit-50 wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:43 am There's three things that I hate in this world. Liver, grapefruit, and Ableton Lives arrangement view. The only way I can work with Live is with my Push 2 and the session view. After that, everything goes to Cubase 10. Takes me no more than 10 minutes in that arrangement view to want to put a hammer right through the freaking monitor screen.
Haha, almost the same here (besides using Reaper/Harrison Mixbus for refinements/mixdown). Not 100% sure but afair there was only one track I've ever finished from A to Z in Live.

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Deep Purple wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:07 am
SoundPorn wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:47 am Abletons limitations become clear when you want to record vocals, there's no native pitch editing, no real vocal track comping
Those actually sound more like limitations of vocalists
Hehehe that's good response.

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elassi wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:22 am
Orbit-50 wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:43 am There's three things that I hate in this world. Liver, grapefruit, and Ableton Lives arrangement view. The only way I can work with Live is with my Push 2 and the session view. After that, everything goes to Cubase 10. Takes me no more than 10 minutes in that arrangement view to want to put a hammer right through the freaking monitor screen.
Haha, almost the same here (besides using Reaper/Harrison Mixbus for refinements/mixdown). Not 100% sure but afair there was only one track I've ever finished from A to Z in Live.
I've litteraly never finished anything in Live either. There are so many cool things about Live, so I'm not a Live hater, but I just can not use that Arrangement view at all.
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Again, exactly my point of view. :tu:

Not being interested in DAW wars anyway. I leave that to the heated heads.

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Deep Purple wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2019 7:07 am
SoundPorn wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:47 am Abletons limitations become clear when you want to record vocals, there's no native pitch editing, no real vocal track comping
Those actually sound more like limitations of vocalists
:) +1

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What exactly is wrong about the arrangement view? I don't understand :dog:
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Orbit-50 wrote: Sat Feb 23, 2019 6:43 am There's three things that I hate in this world. Liver, grapefruit, and Ableton Lives arrangement view. The only way I can work with Live is with my Push 2 and the session view. After that, everything goes to Cubase 10. Takes me no more than 10 minutes in that arrangement view to want to put a hammer right through the freaking monitor screen.
Can't you record your performance with the Push 2 and session view into the arrangement view and then make the necessary edits there with the easy shortcuts and zooming features (especially in 10 and now 10.1)? I've found that's a great way to work in Live. What is so wrong about the arrangement view? I honestly don't get it :-?
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