Phrazor anybody?

[Saukar30]

I gotcha train of thought now, Johnathan! Yeah... there's not like a universal automation track (I'm pretty sure that's what you're asking for) INSIDE of Phrazor which you can adjust VST parameters independt of the clips.

But what you could do is use Phrazor as a VST... load up your project within phrazor & assign your 8 sliders inside of the host. That way when you make a new MIDI track in your host your host track can serve as your automation track for all of your clips that you make within Phrazor.

For ex: You have a Phrazor drumtrack with 10 different clips that are setup to be triggered in addition to the 8 sliders that you have setup to the VSt inside of Phrazor to automate cutoff, resonance, panning, whatever. You then save this as project within Phrazor. If you that insert Phrazor as a VST in your host & open up your saved project it will load all the same info. So if you wanted to record a performance of those clips with some crazy (or smooth) automation, you could record a new MIDI track for your Phrazor VST in the host. Any note information COULD be to switch patterns only if you want it to be(just make sure you turn off your MIDI on for your tracks) or a combination of clip triggering & vst note triggering inside phrazor with an assigned keyrange. Any controller info that you record will be for your 8 sliders for your Phrazor track(s) so that you can record a cutoff sweep gradually as your switching patterns on your keys.

[Saukar30]

And for anyone looking for the link to the last beta of phrazor it's here:
http://www.gersic.com/plugins/hosted/So ... Beta5c.zip

[Jonathan Shepherd]

Great idea there mate. I've been using Phrazor inside Podium just fine, but I haven't explored half of what Phrazor has to offer. Will check it out later today, would like to talk more but I'm on the work computer. Good day!

[studio4]

Anybody here no longer using his copy of Phrazor and/or has the GUI Development Kit?

[szurcio]

And for anyone looking for the link to the last beta of phrazor it's here:
http://www.gersic.com/plugins/hosted/So ... Beta5c.zip

Is the beta usable? Any significant differences between the finished version and the beta?

[studio4]

Here is the list of changes since PREVIEW7 Beta5c:

Version 1.03

- New: Drag AUDIO allows dragging audio loops to host/explorer on the fly
- Fixed: VST plugin editors could stay open when closing Phrazor window
- Fixed: Browser tree always collapsed after save
- Fixed: PDF Manual now has proper TOC


Version 1.02

- New: Factory Clip/Track Library (a selection from the Mesa+ lib)
- Changed: Less volume dropouts in demo
- Fixed: Manual updated
- Fixed: Displaced column names in PROJECT > Notes
- Fixed: SETUP > Audio/Midi > Lock Clip Remote Settings didn't work


Version 1.01

- New: Browse and Tutorials button in PROJECT > Notes panel
- Changed: VST editors now have a standard window frame
- Fixed: Gainer component didn't store programs
- Fixed: Serial MIDI routings with 2 or more slots
- Fixed: Corrected some tutorials
- Fixed: Driver Error message was displayed while rendering
- Fixed: Problems with certain plugins (eXT etc.)


Version 1.00

- New: More tutorials


Version 1.00 RC6

- New: More tutorials
- New: Demo version
- New: Shortcuts Ctrl A,X,C,V,Z,Y added


Version 1.00 RC5

- New: More tutorials
- Changed: Meters are displayed less intense when track sends/mute
- Changed: Startup project removed, use songlist instead
- Changed: First songlist entry is not loaded anymore by default
- Fixed: MIDI input port was not selectable in VST version (now consistent)
- Fixed: Crash because of auto-loading issues


Version 1.00 RC4

- New: More tutorials
- Fixed: Crash with a default project which contained Phrazor itself (recursive open)
- Fixed: Corrected some mistakes in writing
- Fixed: Highligh playing notes options was also set by follow song pos option


Version 1.00 RC3

- New: Visualization of pending states (icon disappears)
- New: Visualization of active notes (CLIPEDIT mode menu or L key)
- New: Visualization of loading programs
- New: Visualization of the plugin scan process
- New: Safety message box for clipmap-reset
- New: CLIPEDIT/PLAYLIST mode menu option 'follow song position' (F key)
- New: More tutorials, tracks, clips etc.
- New: Standalone icon, thanks to Fanta/Hotelsinus
- New: MIDI learn for PLUGIN > Parameters
- New: Detection/workaround for Creative ASIO drivers
- New: Keys for audition (A) and 'Individual Clip View' (1)
- New: Auto-connect moved to MIXER (former track menu)
- Changed: Lock and menu in programs and states selects (hold control to prevent recall)
- Changed: Swapped track/global labels, track is now default
- Fixed: Tutorials songlist could not be opened manually
- Fixed: Plugin editor is restored to initial position if outside screen
- Fixed: follow song position works only within project length
- Fixed: minor bug in time-display
- Fixed: Auto-connect is now saved in track


Version 1.00 RC2

- New: Thru option for remote-clips (means step-lfos for all plugins!)
- New: Auto selection in playlist
- New: Message box if audio-driver reports an error on startup
- New: Finished guides in about panel
- New: hour:min:sec time display (click switches)
- Fixed: Undo/redo in clipedit didn't always refresh cliplist correctly
- Fixed: Playlist autoscroll
- Fixed: Play sended continue instead of start (MIDI sync master)
- Fixed: Rewind sended start (MIDI sync master)
- Fixed: Standalone shutdown bug (process could hang)


Version 1.00 RC1

- New: Right click on menu in CLIPEDIT opens browse menu for clips
- New: Auto assign (hotkey) for states
- New: Help pages on startup panel
- New: Songlist integrated in project notes
- New: Default clipsnap
- Changed: Improved keyrange control
- Changed: First songlist project loads on startup if no default startup project set
- Fixed: Alt+F4 could destroy GUI in VST version
- Fixed: First note dropouts after loading project with autoplay
- Fixed: Notes longer than cliplength caused note cuts
- Fixed: MIDI Song select now works if editor is not opened
- Fixed: Hanging notes when changing clip playmode could occur
- Fixed: Plugin editors cannot get lost on smaller displays anymore
- Fixed: Play only selected Clip didn't work if there was only 1 clip
- Fixed: Reset didn't reset to pianoroll mode
- Fixed: Surface MIDI channel was not handled correctly
- Fixed: Oddities with the folders settings page
- Fixed: Track states where always locked on store
- Fixed: GUI synchronization of programs, clips and states
- Fixed: Programs list showed 129 items


PREVIEW7 Beta15 RC8

- New: Kjaerhus Audio Classic Series included
- New: Hold control key with E button to close all editors
- New: Master level value display
- Changed: Track and mixer level sliders now ranged 0% - 200%
- Fixed: Phrazor VST does not block host audio when loading projects anymore
- Fixed: Master levels were affected by fade inertia
- Fixed: No more clicks when loading projects
- Fixed: Removed the word 'Standard' from Standard MIDI files
- Fixed: Corrected path for native plugins (there are no native plugins yet)
- Fixed: Corrected default filetype in songlist > load


PREVIEW7 Beta14 RC7

- New: PROJECT > Surface (control transport via MIDI)
- New: OPTIONS > Songlist (opens to MIDI song-select)
- New: Programs, track and globals states can be locked/unlocked with right mousebutton
- New: Global option 'Automatically lock Programs and States' (after storing)
- New: Set tempo dialog (doubleclick on BPM)
- New: 'Set length for all Clips' command in cliplist menu
- New: Commands 'Remove All Controller Events' and 'Trim Left' in CLIPEDIT menu
- New: Key commands (standalone) Ctrl+O,S,N,A, cursor-keys, page up/dn
- Changed: Dragging track to cliplist copies clips only if there's at least one used
- Changed: Dragging track to cliplist copies playlist if not empty
- Changed: SETUP > Playmode: better description of modes
- Changed: Renamad REMOTE > Clips to Clip Control
- Fixed: Window title was not refreshed after save/load/reset of project
- Fixed: Crash bug with Stepbeater
- Fixed: Improved recording (no more note cutting)
- Fixed: CLIPEDIT > Random > Time didn't work properly
- Fixed: Autoscroll could work wrong in drumgrid


PREVIEW7 Beta13 RC6

- New: Fade Inertia in SETUP > Audio/Midi
- New: Built-in audio components Gainer, Filter
- New: Clipeditor and playlist follows play-cursor (OPTIONS > Global > Transport Control)
- New: Parameter value display in CONTROL panel
- New: Default cliplength for recording (OPTIONS > Global > Defaults)
- New: Tracks can be dragged from browser/manager to cliplist in order to extract all clips
- Fixed: Transport panel was not refreshed correctly
- Fixed: GUI related refresh bugs
- Fixed: Track bypass now works consistent


PREVIEW7 Beta12 RC5

- New: Sliders values for levels and pan
- Fixed: Phrazor FX was not reported as an effect
- Fixed: Select events button in CLIPEDIT
- Fixed: Velo. dragger in CLIPEDIT toolbar affected CC's
- Fixed: Refresh of control sliders when changing program
- Fixed: GUI related refresh bugs
- Fixed: corrected mistakes in writing
- Fixed: Added more diagnostic messages in ASIO driver


PREVIEW7 Beta11 RC4

- New: 'Calculate Clip Length' command in CLIPEDIT mode menu
- Fixed: Project load/save bug (VST version in certain hosts)
- Fixed: GUI related refresh bugs
- Fixed: Clip length is now automatically recalculated after paste
- Fixed: corrected mistakes in writing
- Fixed: Click on rack/clip heading cycles though browser panels
- Fixed: Doubleclick on slot goes to browser > programs or plugins


PREVIEW7 Beta10 RC3

- Fixed: Installer issue regarding VST version


PREVIEW7 Beta9 RC2

- New: Randomize function in PLUGIN > Parameters
- Fixed: Optimized GUI performance
- Fixed: Loop mode was not restored after project load
- Fixed: Track open in context menu didn't work
- Fixed: Reset all programs/clips also selects first item
- Fixed: Update filename display of grooves/drummaps after save as
- Fixed: corrected mistakes in writing


PREVIEW7 Beta8 RC1

- New: Some infos in mixer, midi and control view when all slots are empty
- New: Manager database statistics
- New: basic VST effects PhrazorLP, PhrazorHP, PhrazorOverdrive
- New: Auto-connect option in track context menu
- Changed: better auto-connect logic, respects bypass and deleting and moving of slots
- Fixed: Storing programs overwrote existing names (use control-key to force that)
- Fixed: Installer reported error when option VST was not checked


PREVIEW7 Beta7

- New: Save message box when closing Phrazor standalone
- New: Save message box before manager-rebuild
- New: Visualization of selected ghost notes
- Changed: Completely reworked clipedit and playlist menubars
- Fixed: Browser plugins tree keeps state
- Fixed: Inserting notes when snap is off now inserts a 1/16
- Fixed: Drumgrid displayed velocities of hidden notes


PREVIEW7 Beta6

- New: Reworked installer, separated vst-dll's and Phrazor folder
- New: 3 VST plugins by GTG included (they will be used in the new tutorials)
- New: Manager 95% finished
- New: Main panel layout reworked, current filename displayed in browser/manager
- New: Smart tab selection in browser/manager
- New: Save all clips
- New: Export all clips as Midi
- New: Save command for projects, tracks, slots, programs and clips
- New: Info for projects, tracks, slots, programs and clips
- New: Load VST directly via dialog
- New: Drag VST dll's to Phrazor loads them
- New: Playmode 'Automatic' (only plays non-remote clips in clipmode)
- New: Moving tracks automatically updates multi-output targets
- New: Moving tracks using MIDI input from another track updates MIDI input track
- Changed: Old tutorials removed, new better ones will come
- Fixed: Parameter names are refreshed automatically (Drumular)
- Fixed: Swapping two send target tracks now works correctly
- Fixed: Minor bypass logic bug

[C-note]

my .02 - I bought Phrazor when it first came out (close to NI's KORE 1 release) and quickly discarded KORE in favor of Phrazor. Phrazor is a great product that hopefully will re-appear in Maschine 2 as Holger works for NI now.

[studio4]

The sonicbytes site is still up. ADD by Mesa+ is also listed there, a custom version of Phrazor:

ADD is a new and innovative multi purpose phrase-sampler VST2.0 compatible, which combines a powerful sampler (Sound Engine) with a real-time phrase sequencer (RPS). ADD has been equally designed for use in a live performance or as a creative compositional tool; it enables you to quickly create original sequences while improvising with your midi-keyboard.

Demo v1.1 via webarchive: https://web.archive.org/web/20060718213 ... 1_demo.zip

[studio4]

I am interested in that as well, in case someone wants to get rid of it.

[Newbie Brad]

Mesa+ website is dead. I would be interested if there is a way to buy a license and have a fully enabled latest developed Phrazor.

[studio4]

The only way I can think of is to ask here like I did, before you btw

[studio4]

Mesa+ website is dead.

I remember they even had their own forum on KVR back then. The YouTube channel is still up though:
https://www.youtube.com/user/mesaplus

[Newbie Brad]

The only way I can think of is to ask here like I did, before you btw

Hey thanks for making me aware of Mesa + Phrazor-like program, I didn't know of it. Sugar Bytes didn't go towards Phrazor at all, did it?

[C-note]

The only way I can think of is to ask here like I did, before you btw

Hey thanks for making me aware of Mesa + Phrazor-like program, I didn't know of it. Sugar Bytes didn't go towards Phrazor at all, did it?

Sugar Bytes only went forward with ERA and ETA (both of which are excellent) and maybe Gatr in the beginning but I think Holger kept rights to Phrazor.

[studio4]

The site appears to be down now (for sale). Does anyone still have the latest update (v1.03)? Thanks.