I'm too perfectionist and spend 6 months - 1 year in avarage to complete songs. Am I alone? Hey,
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
As far as you being alone, I can't answer that question. I don't know how long other people take to finish a song nor do I care to find out. Personally, I don't know how anybody can take so long to finish one song. Life is so short. If I did a song every year, I'd be dead before I finished a whole album.
I can do a song a day if I have to. If I really nit pick over a song, it takes me about 7 days. Longer than that, I can't even imagine.
But, to each his own. If somebody wants to spend a year on a song, it's not for me to say whether it's right or wrong. That's between them and their conscience. I only know that I would never take that long on a piece of music.
NEVER.
I can do a song a day if I have to. If I really nit pick over a song, it takes me about 7 days. Longer than that, I can't even imagine.
But, to each his own. If somebody wants to spend a year on a song, it's not for me to say whether it's right or wrong. That's between them and their conscience. I only know that I would never take that long on a piece of music.
NEVER.
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- KVRist
- 196 posts since 19 Sep, 2012
Aimed at me?
I don't disagree, I just think there are other ways to look at art than an assembly line that produces acceptable product. Many other ways. But having a work ethic is fantastic, and if producing acceptable product satisfies you, then that's great. Really.
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- KVRist
- 313 posts since 27 Nov, 2017
"Have no fear of perfection --you'll never reach it." -Salvador Dali
- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
No, it was a direct answer to the OP's question so aimed at nobody but him. Actually, not really "aimed" at anybody. Just stating a fact. I would never spend a year doing one song. But I am not judging anybody who does. Again, to each his own. Whatever works for you.datroof wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 4:12 amAimed at me?
I don't disagree, I just think there are other ways to look at art than an assembly line that produces acceptable product. Many other ways. But having a work ethic is fantastic, and if producing acceptable product satisfies you, then that's great. Really.
BUT...If anybody wants to stop spending so much time on one song, the solution is simple. Just don't do it. We have total control of how long we choose to work on something, especially if it's just for fun. Now, if you do this for a living and on a deadline, maybe not so much. I could take 20 years on a song if I want to. I simply choose not to.
It's really that simple.
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- KVRist
- 100 posts since 5 Sep, 2019
If i got a clear goal like a intro for game or a deadline on a contest i need nearly to nothing time
But if i work on something which steals my heart I need endless time.
But if i work on something which steals my heart I need endless time.
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- KVRist
- 196 posts since 19 Sep, 2012
Learning how to work without relying on your muse is part of being a professional. But I happen to like my muse, so I'm careful not to lose touch with her. I think that's the risk in being too regimented in your approach. If you lose touch with your creativity, then you may as well be repairing mufflers.wagtunes wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:44 am
No, it was a direct answer to the OP's question so aimed at nobody but him. Actually, not really "aimed" at anybody. Just stating a fact. I would never spend a year doing one song. But I am not judging anybody who does. Again, to each his own. Whatever works for you.
BUT...If anybody wants to stop spending so much time on one song, the solution is simple. Just don't do it. We have total control of how long we choose to work on something, especially if it's just for fun. Now, if you do this for a living and on a deadline, maybe not so much. I could take 20 years on a song if I want to. I simply choose not to.
It's really that simple.
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- KVRist
- 196 posts since 19 Sep, 2012
+1, I can relate. I think it's important to learn to recognize that feeling - of something stealing your heart - and how to (gently) set it aside, if necessary.
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- KVRAF
- 21196 posts since 8 Oct, 2014
When I don't feel creative I just don't do anything. Fortunately for me, those times in my life have been very few and far between. I had one period between 2003 and 2008 when I stopped writing altogether. But that was it. Outside of those 5 years, I've been going non stop since 1977.datroof wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:18 pmLearning how to work without relying on your muse is part of being a professional. But I happen to like my muse, so I'm careful not to lose touch with her. I think that's the risk in being too regimented in your approach. If you lose touch with your creativity, then you may as well be repairing mufflers.wagtunes wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 10:44 am
No, it was a direct answer to the OP's question so aimed at nobody but him. Actually, not really "aimed" at anybody. Just stating a fact. I would never spend a year doing one song. But I am not judging anybody who does. Again, to each his own. Whatever works for you.
BUT...If anybody wants to stop spending so much time on one song, the solution is simple. Just don't do it. We have total control of how long we choose to work on something, especially if it's just for fun. Now, if you do this for a living and on a deadline, maybe not so much. I could take 20 years on a song if I want to. I simply choose not to.
It's really that simple.
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- KVRist
- 196 posts since 19 Sep, 2012
That's great to hear! I wish you continued creativity and success.wagtunes wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:33 pmWhen I don't feel creative I just don't do anything. Fortunately for me, those times in my life have been very few and far between. I had one period between 2003 and 2008 when I stopped writing altogether. But that was it. Outside of those 5 years, I've been going non stop since 1977.datroof wrote: ↑Tue Sep 24, 2019 2:18 pm Learning how to work without relying on your muse is part of being a professional. But I happen to like my muse, so I'm careful not to lose touch with her. I think that's the risk in being too regimented in your approach. If you lose touch with your creativity, then you may as well be repairing mufflers.
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- KVRist
- 329 posts since 2 Aug, 2013 from USA
It’s important to set deadlines / constraints so that work doesn’t continually expand to time allotted. As you get more and more under your belt, it’s should become easier and come faster. I know that when I’m making songs by myself it takes lot longer.
I didn’t scroll back to get more detail, but if you’re only spending an hour a week on a song, it’s going to take a while.
As for a song being done, there are examples of hit songs taking 3 years to finish e.g. writers of “I Can’t Make You Love Me”.
I didn’t scroll back to get more detail, but if you’re only spending an hour a week on a song, it’s going to take a while.
As for a song being done, there are examples of hit songs taking 3 years to finish e.g. writers of “I Can’t Make You Love Me”.
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Desire Inspires Desire Inspires https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=446361
- KVRist
- 41 posts since 16 Aug, 2019
You just need more cowbell. That’s the solution to finishing songs for me.
To the stars through desire.
- KVRAF
- 40229 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
You don't have to make everything in your life a job or a competition. There's nothing wrong with having a hobby. Not everyone is lucky enough to have one.
That last sentence is prime fodder for the quoted out of context thread but whatever ...
That last sentence is prime fodder for the quoted out of context thread but whatever ...
Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
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- addled muppet weed
- 105800 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
take some time on the journey to smell the roses, converse with the birds, no hurry no worry