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Do you automate before or after mixing?
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- KVRAF
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- KVRAF
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- KVRian
- 643 posts since 17 Aug, 2015 from Finland
During. I see automation as a part of the mixing process.
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- KVRist
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- 349 posts since 20 Sep, 2018 from UK
I hear you. I often get really sick of listening to things by the end, but I think as the process gets faster, I'm less sick.
Well, that's a good point actually, I was hoping people would elaborate on that.
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- KVRian
- 912 posts since 3 Feb, 2015 from UK
I mostly automate during mixing; after the mix is done there's nothing left to automate, right?
Anything that is automatable is ripe for automation if needed, so synth and fx params, sends, track/item/clip params (like pitch), track gain (using trim or a utility plugin, never the fader).
I'm more, but not exclusively, likely to automate synth params while writing and arranging; Bitwig supports automation at the clip level, and Reaper supports automation items, both of which make it easy to rearrange stuff on the timeline. (can't speak for other DAW's but they'll have similar capabilities).
Anything that is automatable is ripe for automation if needed, so synth and fx params, sends, track/item/clip params (like pitch), track gain (using trim or a utility plugin, never the fader).
I'm more, but not exclusively, likely to automate synth params while writing and arranging; Bitwig supports automation at the clip level, and Reaper supports automation items, both of which make it easy to rearrange stuff on the timeline. (can't speak for other DAW's but they'll have similar capabilities).
- KVRAF
- 4590 posts since 7 Jun, 2012 from Warsaw
I do some automation at arrangement stage to create desired flow. Then plug mix busses, then tweak again. Then run 'final' mix through mastering chain and if something turns out too loud or too quiet, I tweak automation again. It's a continuous cycle of improvements.
To make any progress, it's good to call tracks "finished" at some point and bounce them to audio. There's no coming back to endless automation lanes, but working on bounced audio is still possible to improve balance. Especially now that Ableton has nice fade handles.
To make any progress, it's good to call tracks "finished" at some point and bounce them to audio. There's no coming back to endless automation lanes, but working on bounced audio is still possible to improve balance. Especially now that Ableton has nice fade handles.
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Distorted Horizon Distorted Horizon https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=392076
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Depends of automation, but generally making a track and mixing are two different projects. Ofc both they have automations but on different tools and goals.
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- 10586 posts since 31 Aug, 2013 from Somewhere near the Morgul Vale.
I tend to keep to very basic automation. Panning and track volume. I know I could do more, but I'm lazy.
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- KVRAF
- 2564 posts since 2 Jul, 2010
Automation is part of mixing, but I try to leave it as late as possible and keep it as simple as possible. Complex automation as part of sound design/composition should be bounced.