Why does a movie soundtrack, even when I play it loud over my activ speakers, ....why does it not roar.
When I use the same instruments in my DAW and recreate the soundtrack, it roars even with a limmiter ore compressor.
Something I miss here in mixing tech?
Why does a movie soundtrack........
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- KVRian
- 1286 posts since 7 Dec, 2013 from Earth
Mixing is a lot more than putting a limiter on the master bus. Every instrument needs to have its own space in the mix without too much overlapping frequencies (which is probably the 'roar' you're hearing).
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- addled muppet weed
- 105855 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
wed need examples for comparison.
otherwise "well clearly youre doing something wrong" is the best we can do.
otherwise "well clearly youre doing something wrong" is the best we can do.
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2461 posts since 26 Jul, 2004
Hm.
An instrument changes its frequencys within a track.
How do I keep the frequencys from overlapping ?
Does the eq hast to change with the instrument all over time to
keep the frequence picture clean and seperated?
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
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- addled muppet weed
- 105855 posts since 26 Jan, 2003 from through the looking glass
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- KVRian
- 665 posts since 1 Jan, 2018
Is there a lion hiding in your DAW?
If not, then I'm out of ideas.
Well, OK, in addition to the stuff already suggested, maybe your effects are in fact partly the cause of the problem? For one thing, adding a limiter is more likely to create distortion rather than eliminate it.
It could also be an issue with your arrangement. If you are playing too many instruments in the same register, you could get unwanted interference. Here, you might be better off re-voicing some chords etc. rather than relying on EQ or production tricks.
If not, then I'm out of ideas.
Well, OK, in addition to the stuff already suggested, maybe your effects are in fact partly the cause of the problem? For one thing, adding a limiter is more likely to create distortion rather than eliminate it.
It could also be an issue with your arrangement. If you are playing too many instruments in the same register, you could get unwanted interference. Here, you might be better off re-voicing some chords etc. rather than relying on EQ or production tricks.
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- KVRAF
- 4007 posts since 8 Jan, 2005 from Hamilton, New Zealand
I think they're asking why movie soundtracks are quiet, compared to the little-to-no dynamic range in mainstream 'audio'. The reason is that no dynamic range sucks ass in terms of emotional contrast. That's about it.
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- KVRAF
- 1666 posts since 28 Jun, 2007 from Amazon rain forest
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- KVRAF
- 3508 posts since 12 May, 2011
Just my opinion:
Compared to the good old days, modern soundtrack music tends to be fairly low down in the mix, and also has zero dynamics - the quiet bits are as loud as the, er, loud bits. I think this is because modern acting involves a lot of mumbling.
Listen to an old epic like El Cid - the music is loud in the action scenes, quiet in the meditative, and the actors never mumble.
There are obviously exceptions, in both eras. But older films have less mumbling - Annie Get Your Gun is positively shouty.
Compared to the good old days, modern soundtrack music tends to be fairly low down in the mix, and also has zero dynamics - the quiet bits are as loud as the, er, loud bits. I think this is because modern acting involves a lot of mumbling.
Listen to an old epic like El Cid - the music is loud in the action scenes, quiet in the meditative, and the actors never mumble.
There are obviously exceptions, in both eras. But older films have less mumbling - Annie Get Your Gun is positively shouty.
