The $1,500 USD Plugin
- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 22 May, 2017
Good lord...
- KVRAF
- 2772 posts since 22 May, 2017
- KVRian
- 581 posts since 17 Feb, 2016 from west coast somewhere USA....
But will is sound as good as this plugin?
- KVRAF
- 1877 posts since 30 Mar, 2008 from MN, USA
I prefer this version: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mimaImLrmfUElektronisch wrote: ↑Tue Oct 22, 2019 7:30 amThis reminds me a bit of 1 million dollar system for sonic idiots https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fr8O_jZhpl4
CLAP Software Database: https://clapdb.tech. KVR Discussion Topic.
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- KVRAF
- 1858 posts since 26 Nov, 2018
Oh I hate that guy.
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- KVRian
- 1030 posts since 26 Feb, 2018
I think at this point people posting those videos here are just trolling us
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- KVRAF
- 15135 posts since 7 Sep, 2008
Until you've suffered through a Scotty Kilmer video you ain't seen nothin' yet.
"I was wondering if you'd like to try Magic Mushrooms"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
"Oooh I dont know. Sounds a bit scary"
"It's not scary. You just lose a sense of who you are and all that sh!t"
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- Banned
- 3889 posts since 3 Feb, 2010
I do believe people hate this guy because he is not polite and doesnt shy to say things how they are under all the bombastic shiny presentations and gives some critical thinking and listening, which people do lack really, but it doesnt nesceserely mean its a bad thing, because it can be a curse. I actually like the guy, he's funny
In the end i suppose it results in touching some guys soft spot and i guess making them feel hurt a little bit ? i mean if your favorite plugin you always gonna use is being said that its really a crap or just another variation of something else to milk money, i can understand it can be felt hurt
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 16369 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
Been watching from the early days of his channel, and I really like his videos.Elektronisch wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 6:44 amI do believe people hate this guy because he is not polite and doesnt shy to say things how they are under all the bombastic shiny presentations and gives some critical thinking and listening, which people do lack really, but it doesnt nesceserely mean its a bad thing, because it can be a curse. I actually like the guy, he's funny
In the end i suppose it results in touching some guys soft spot and i guess making them feel hurt a little bit ? i mean if your favorite plugin you always gonna use is being said that its really a crap or just another variation of something else to milk money, i can understand it can be felt hurt
I can see why he annoys people. He has an air of precociousness, and does get a lot of shit wrong. However, I always got the impression he is genuine e.g with his attitude towards sponsorship and product placement.
The whole 'Snake Oil' concept seems to be the most divisive, love-it-or-hate-it element in his repertoire, which is a shame because it could be something quite valuable (We don't need more content-creators sugar-coating reviews for sponsorship, we need people telling us when something is shit). However, unfortunately Wytse undermines the whole thing by not bothering to learn how the plugins function, leading to him dismissing a product for reasons borne of his own ignorance and bloody-mindedness. He doesn't always get it wrong, but it's always inexcusable when he does.
Even if you disregard the Snake Oil issues, there are other things that he gets wrong. However, I don't think he's claiming to be an expert. He is clearly passionate, and has a lot of experience. It's not often that someone of his age, at least in this era, would be expected to take on ambitious analogue-desk restoration projects, or building hardware units from kits. And he does have a lot of diverse content, in which he gets a lot right.
Whether you like him or not, his channel makes a change from a sea of clone-channels, producing the same content, pedalling the same pre-video adverts. I very rarely miss one of his videos
Edited: for a really bad spelling mistake!
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- KVRian
- 1030 posts since 26 Feb, 2018
Simple as that.el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:18 am He has an air of procoiousness, and does get a lot of shit wrong.
I personally don't feel disrupted (I'm older and somewhat experienced), some of it is fun to watch and I know enough to not be influenced by his opinions outside of my own.
My concern is for the community. Reading a lot of people that quote this dude like he said something smart. Anyone that doesn't trust their own ears and skills should stay away from opinionated people that barely know what they are talking about and speak with the certainty of masters. If you ever watch a video by this dude and think "interesting, I hadn't thought of that" do yourself a huge favor and watch people like Pensado instead.
At a personal level, in these days of "alternative facts" I'm pretty sickened by anyone that jumps in the discourse to muddy the waters. And it is offensive to have a teen-acting dude load up a CLA compressor and pretend to judge it like he has the chops to determine if a plugin that's been on countless Grammy-winning records is "snake oil". The implication, not just that CLA and Waves are peddling BS, but that every pro producer in the last 10 years is stupid and using garbage in their studio. Seriously, if that's not offensive I don't know what is.
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el-bo (formerly ebow) el-bo (formerly ebow) https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=208007
- KVRAF
- 16369 posts since 24 May, 2009 from A galaxy, far far away
Firstly, I had to go back and correct that hideous spelling mistake (typing quickly on iPad is my excuse, and I'm sticking to it). Secondly, I think he gets more right than wrong.jochicago wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 8:34 pmSimple as that.el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: ↑Fri Oct 25, 2019 7:18 am He has an air of procoiousness, and does get a lot of shit wrong.
I personally don't feel disrupted (I'm older and somewhat experienced), some of it is fun to watch and I know enough to not be influenced by his opinions outside of my own.
My concern is for the community. Reading a lot of people that quote this dude like he said something smart. Anyone that doesn't trust their own ears and skills should stay away from opinionated people that barely know what they are talking about and speak with the certainty of masters. If you ever watch a video by this dude and think "interesting, I hadn't thought of that" do yourself a huge favor and watch people like Pensado instead.
At a personal level, in these days of "alternative facts" I'm pretty sickened by anyone that jumps in the discourse to muddy the waters. And it is offensive to have a teen-acting dude load up a CLA compressor and pretend to judge it like he has the chops to determine if a plugin that's been on countless Grammy-winning records is "snake oil". The implication, not just that CLA and Waves are peddling BS, but that every pro producer in the last 10 years is stupid and using garbage in their studio. Seriously, if that's not offensive I don't know what is.
I don't remember the CLA episode, but the idea of snake oil is not so much about whether plugins are good or not, but whether the hype is justified. Whether Waves plugins are good is not the point, if your aim is to demonstrate that they don't live up to the marketing spiel. Not saying he was right (Like I said, I don't remember seeing it), but I wouldn't immediately dismiss someone's opinion (Not just talking about his) with an appeal to the authority of "every pro producer in the last 10 years".
I do agree that it's an issue when people don't realise where he misses the mark. And I include myself in that. However, my motivation for watching are not solely to learn. I find his content and presentation entertaining, and I'll easily discard what misses for what hits
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BaronWaterpark BaronWaterpark https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=449622
- KVRist
- 38 posts since 13 Oct, 2019
If you think that's expensive, think again. Cedar Audio has plugins that cost about $3000, like this DeBuzz for Pro Tools.