Your opinion on the best Compressor (Klanghelm DC8C, Pro-C, Ozone8, H-Comp) ?
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- KVRAF
- 1525 posts since 29 Oct, 2015 from Jupiter 8
I always hated the sound of the 1176 when i was still on UAD. Has been the MKI though. I always preferred the LA-3A when that came out later on.
Have been avoiding 1176 clones ever since, so maybe there are some i'd actually like.
My favorite character compressor has been MJUC for a while now and DC8C for clean, though i have no qualms using ReaComp for this application aswell which i do fairly regularly.
Have been avoiding 1176 clones ever since, so maybe there are some i'd actually like.
My favorite character compressor has been MJUC for a while now and DC8C for clean, though i have no qualms using ReaComp for this application aswell which i do fairly regularly.
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- 697 posts since 29 Oct, 2016
I already got him a moog sub37 for Valentine’s Day and I will be getting him the Klanghelm DC8C for his upcoming birthday. I hope he likes it!
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- KVRAF
- 2852 posts since 8 Dec, 2008 from Global Cowboy
Neon Breath wrote: ↑Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:39 pm I heard Cast Iron from Harbor Freight is pretty good and is only $175
https://www.harborfreight.com/air-tools ... 61454.html
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- 7624 posts since 13 Nov, 2015 from Norway
Can i use it on my master ?digitalboytn wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 2:14 amNeon Breath wrote: ↑Sun Feb 03, 2019 4:39 pm I heard Cast Iron from Harbor Freight is pretty good and is only $175
https://www.harborfreight.com/air-tools ... 61454.html
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- KVRist
- 337 posts since 7 Sep, 2012
Check out the DMG TrackComp. It has SPICE simulated 2A (LA2A), as well as 76D (1176), E-channel (SSL E-Series), G-Bus (SSL G-Series) and one of DMGs own compressor models. With the simulated compressors you'll get to adjust the Attack and Release beyond the known hardware limits and have additional features like Response and Brightness in the case of the 2A.acousticglue wrote: ↑Sat Jun 01, 2019 9:08 pm DC8C and any Fairchild emulation. Also LA2A are naked but sound good. Anyone make a more tweakable LA2A?
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- KVRAF
- 3817 posts since 8 Mar, 2006
DMG Trackcomp is truly great! (I also have and use other comps but this one is special in it's own way) ... and once you get used to having the extra attack/release ranges you don't really want to use any other emulations, it's very useful to have! .. I mean, who didn't wish they have just a tiny bit faster release on an G-Bus or LA-2A emu for example?subterfuge wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:05 am Check out the DMG TrackComp. It has SPICE simulated 2A (LA2A), as well as 76D (1176), E-channel (SSL E-Series), G-Bus (SSL G-Series) and one of DMGs own compressor models. With the simulated compressors you'll get to adjust the Attack and Release beyond the known hardware limits and have additional features like Response and Brightness in the case of the 2A.
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- Banned
- 310 posts since 29 Apr, 2014
Hey , have you guys tried DDMF's MagicDeathEye? https://ddmf.eu/magicdeatheye/
Seems like very intelligent and smooth. Also the spikes when you hit play do not excist it behaves like a good analog. First time I spot this in a vst compressor
Seems like very intelligent and smooth. Also the spikes when you hit play do not excist it behaves like a good analog. First time I spot this in a vst compressor
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 11511 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
MagicDeathEye is amazing. That said, my LA-2A clone definitely will spike in the first transient of a vocal when you catch the release at the wrong time. That's not a digital thing. Analog does it too. There's a reason why people will frequently run an 1176 to catch the peaks on a vocal before an LA-2A in the analog domain. Also why some gear got "Hold" controls added (thinking Abbey Road). Allowed you to momentarily hold the GR so there wouldn't be a loud pump at the end of a section, or pop as a vocal came back in.Thavma wrote: ↑Sun Jun 09, 2019 11:52 pm Hey , have you guys tried DDMF's MagicDeathEye? https://ddmf.eu/magicdeatheye/
Seems like very intelligent and smooth. Also the spikes when you hit play do not excist it behaves like a good analog. First time I spot this in a vst compressor
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- 310 posts since 29 Apr, 2014
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: ↑Mon Jun 10, 2019 12:05 am MagicDeathEye is amazing. That said, my LA-2A clone definitely will spike in the first transient of a vocal when you catch the release at the wrong time. That's not a digital thing. Analog does it too. There's a reason why people will frequently run an 1176 to catch the peaks on a vocal before an LA-2A in the analog domain. Also why some gear got "Hold" controls added (thinking Abbey Road). Allowed you to momentarily hold the GR so there wouldn't be a loud pump at the end of a section, or pop as a vocal came back in.
hmmm!! good to know! my ssl 4000 clone doesn't makes that so I though it would be the same everywhere.
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The Main Event The Main Event https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=284544
- KVRist
- 116 posts since 20 Jul, 2012
Having discussed the topic about the "sound" already a lot here, i also chose mine from how user-friendly and flexible they are. Its all about knowing your stuff. Get a few good compressor and really LEARN how to use them. Having said that, these are my favourite go-to compressor i use regularly (no particular order):
FF ProC2, MJUC, SuperchargerGT, Waves SSL Channelstrip, CLA76, Waves RVox, The Glue, JST Bus Glue Bundle
FF ProC2, MJUC, SuperchargerGT, Waves SSL Channelstrip, CLA76, Waves RVox, The Glue, JST Bus Glue Bundle
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simon.a.billington simon.a.billington https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=341278
- KVRAF
- 2375 posts since 12 Nov, 2014
This is good to know.imrae wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 10:09 pmIf we're going to speculate then we might as well measure. I just had a play with Plugin Doctor and found that there's plenty of nonlinearity with ratio=1, threshold=0 and even mix=0%! So this is clearly happening at an input or output stage quite separate from the main compression behaviour. It's a bit late in the evening to edit them together but here are some highlights:simon.a.billington wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 6:17 pmAs far as I’m aware, the characteristics of transformers are only very subtle. Whereas the Analog control has a huge influence on the tone and the harmonic character. Analog 3 shares the same harmonic footprint of the V-Comp, while Analog 1 is very much like the API. That much I know.jens wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 12:10 pmNope, as far as I know / can tell, it only selects four different sort of idealized/pseudo transformer emulations which gets added at the output stage i.e. the compression itself is completely unaffected by it.simon.a.billington wrote: ↑Mon Jun 03, 2019 8:14 am I can't give you opinion as I have not use all of these, but I can give you a tip on H-Comp...
The Analog dial IS NOT a Noise control. It selects different compressor types/pseudo emulations.
However, given that the Punch and envelop characteristics seem to be pretty consistent with whatever mode you select, I say that you are right on some level.
It’s a hybrid compressor, that’s the concept. So I guess it proposes to take the best of both the analogue and digital worlds and combine them together to create something more flexible. Well that’s how I interpret it.
The first is the transfer function with a slow sweep for Analog mode 1; this seems to be the noisiest mode, with a noise floor over -75 dBFS.
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Next is the frequency spectrum for Analog mode 3, which has a pretty drastic high scoop. It would be worth verifying with a long noise sample if that's real or some artifact of measuring an impulse, but at mix=0% it's remarkable either way.
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Finally the transfer function of Analog mode 4, which has an interesting dip and is insensitive to the compressor timing controls. Would this give a "fuzzy" distortion? It does seem to be accompanied by a pretty dense set of harmonics (but at a low level).
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For what it's worth I like H-comp a lot as a squishy swingy buss thing, but while I like the idea of the nonlinearity features I don't find them that useful. Perhaps this will help! I was surprised to see that they are engaged on the "dry" signal and insensitive to the threshold knob. There could be other effects on the compressor timing that are harder to analyze, but at this stage I see no reason to actively believe that they exist.
However, I wasn't speculating as I got my information from Waves literature when it first came out. The only trouble is, I can't seem to find it again, otherwise I would have posted the link.
Most compressor harmonics are at low levels until the signal starts approaching the threshold or you begin compression.
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- KVRAF
- 2564 posts since 2 Jul, 2010
As my testing shows, H-comp throws out lots of saturation independently of the compression. Pushing a test tone into compression by increasing the ratio does *not* add any more harmonics so there cannot be a simple saturator in the GR element either.
I haven't found any claim by Waves that things are more complicated than this. We have no test data suggesting that there is anything more going on. We should apply Occam's razor; it's more likely that Waves used a simple algorithm than that they used a complicated one with a subtle result and then told us nothing about it.
I haven't found any claim by Waves that things are more complicated than this. We have no test data suggesting that there is anything more going on. We should apply Occam's razor; it's more likely that Waves used a simple algorithm than that they used a complicated one with a subtle result and then told us nothing about it.