Plug-In Alliance Orgy
- KVRAF
- 5054 posts since 16 May, 2002 from Brisbane , Australia
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- 3490 posts since 6 Sep, 2007 from France
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- 3490 posts since 6 Sep, 2007 from France
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Yes it is harsh but unfortunately also true. You know you guys were all thinking it. Don't get mad because I told the him the truth that no one else had the decency to tell him.
- KVRian
- 1016 posts since 16 Aug, 2010 from almost everywhere...
- KVRAF
- 6980 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
Yes, this thread stinks...
https://sonograyn.bandcamp.com/music Experimental Ambient
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
https://martinjuenke.bandcamp.com/music Alternative Instrumental
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- KVRian
- 1052 posts since 17 Nov, 2010 from UK
Well yes, but perhaps you could've given him some constructive feedback, like: the vocals were too loud, the drums too quiet etc etc etc.
At least he had the balls to post some of his music, most of us don't (at least, I don't!).
A bit fried in the higher freqs
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 25 posts since 14 Jan, 2010
You nailed it!
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- KVRAF
- 5716 posts since 8 Jun, 2009
There is a difference between track needing more work, or in this case, some different arrangement, songwriting and mix decisions - and they may all turn out to be quite minor. That's a long, long way from it being a waste of time or money. Get a grip.
The compression on the voice doesn't work badly at all - but it's mixed way too high and upfront relative to the guitar and percussion. Some cuts in the mids might help. Though I think one issue is that the song possibly needs a sparser guitar sound - it's too indistinct in something that I guess is meant to sound intimate (pun partially intended).
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- KVRer
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- 25 posts since 14 Jan, 2010
Thanks very much, that's high praise. Perhaps not surprising -- when I was in a punk band in high school, we opened at various times for Husker Du, the Minutemen, and the Meat Puppets. "Meat Puppets II" was a huge influence on all of us at that time, and an amazing record. For that matter, however, if they had posted the song "Plateau" on this forum, some people certainly would have said that Curt Kirkwood can't sing a bit and would have ridiculed the song. And yet, some people consider "Plateau" to be a signature American composition of recent decades.
It's definitely a good thing to be open to how your music is landing with other people. At the same time, there's not an artist out there, including good ones, who hasn't been ridiculed and harshly criticized. For my part, I was more than pleasantly surprised by the overall response to my record "The Erotic Review." I have had more than a handful of people whom I had never met describe the album as personally meaningfully to them. One song was curated onto a playlist by Spotify and got over 3,000 plays. That's not to show off -- and by this time my monthly plays are a trickle -- and but really just to illustrate the point that as artists, we should all look at our positive feedback as well as the negative.
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- KVRer
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- 25 posts since 14 Jan, 2010
Gamma-UT wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:38 pmThanks for the feedback. The stuff on your soundcloud has some great and fascinating sounds, by the way. It's helpful to get feedback like this from people who get down into the weeks or mixing and plug-ins. I have enjoyed learning about subtractive EQ, and did my best to cut annoying mid frequencies, but it sounds like I need to do more. As for the guitar, that strikes me as a good point, and one I hadn't really considered. The material is indeed supposed to be intimate, and anything that detracts from that is a candidate for being diminished or dropped.jbarish wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:09 am
The compression on the voice doesn't work badly at all - but it's mixed way too high and upfront relative to the guitar and percussion. Some cuts in the mids might help. Though I think one issue is that the song possibly needs a sparser guitar sound - it's too indistinct in something that I guess is meant to sound intimate (pun partially intended).
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- KVRian
- 1052 posts since 17 Nov, 2010 from UK
I guess Nirvana turned me on to the Meat Puppets back in the day, and I still really like Monsters, great album that.alex312 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:58 pm"Meat Puppets II" was a huge influence on all of us at that time, and an amazing record. For that matter, however, if they had posted the song "Plateau" on this forum, some people certainly would have said that Curt Kirkwood can't sing a bit and would have ridiculed the song. And yet, some people consider "Plateau" to be a signature American composition of recent decades.
Enjoy what you do, have fun, keep going, take on board valid criticism and believe in yourself. Music is an art not a science, there's no right or wrong.alex312 wrote: ↑Tue Jan 08, 2019 4:58 pmIt's definitely a good thing to be open to how your music is landing with other people. At the same time, there's not an artist out there, including good ones, who hasn't been ridiculed and harshly criticized. For my part, I was more than pleasantly surprised by the overall response to my record "The Erotic Review." I have had more than a handful of people whom I had never met describe the album as personally meaningfully to them. One song was curated onto a playlist by Spotify and got over 3,000 plays. That's not to show off -- and by this time my monthly plays are a trickle -- and but really just to illustrate the point that as artists, we should all look at our positive feedback as well as the negative.
But I do think your vocals are too high in the mix
A bit fried in the higher freqs