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Protocol_b wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:12 pm Apologies to all, I haven't been back for a while and just wanted to explain - the reason I listed a bunch of Kontakt instruments is because I use the midi-out of Kontakt when I run a lot of these, so in my mind Kontakt has just become a big midi-fx. I use a lot of instances that simply run scripts, no samples even involved, in order to control modules downstream.

Soniccouture used to sell Scriptorium, a library of scripts you could use in Kontakt, but I don't see it on their site anymore :(.
It looks like there's a section on their blog now where you can download a number of the Scriptorium scripts:

http://www.soniccouture.com/blog/category/script/

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David wrote: Mon Nov 18, 2019 2:39 am
Kalamata Kid wrote: Sun Nov 17, 2019 12:18 am They have some interesting midi plugins
Nassen Software Development
My favorite:
http://www.raxntrax.com/
I am jealous of the many interesting midi plugins available only for Windows.
Arpado stand alone runs on Linux, Mac and Windows. VST version (upcoming !!) will support those platforms as well.
Let your musical ideas flow
https://arpado.site

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David wrote: Wed Nov 20, 2019 12:28 am Incidentally, MY current MIDI FX fav is a combo, featured in detail in the last several livestreams from pluginguru (https://www.youtube.com/user/thepluginguru). He's coming out soon with a really cool plugin-hosting plugin called Unify, that I'm part of the beta-testing group for.

It's most interesting aspect, for me, is that it lets you load as many different MIDI FX "layers" as you want, both in serial and in parallel, AND direct the output of any of these to any or all of however many instrument layers you can also load, which can hold any vst, vst3, or au plugins you've got, also in series or parallel. So, it's easy to send the same MIDI FX instance to multiple vsts at the same time, which in some DAWs is either hard or impossible (not currently possible with Captain Chords, either, unless used inside—or outside—Unify, or with other plugin hosts like Patchwork or Bidule—which I have and are neither as simple and straight-forward as Unify). Or, to send a different instance of the same MIDI FX to lots of different instrument layers, to easily set up, for instance, multiple interlocking arp patterns, driving a bunch of different instruments, and save the whole thing as a single plugin preset for easy recall.

Unify will come with several open-source, free instrument plugins officially built-in, along with a custom sampler pre-loaded with a bunch of pluginguru sample libraries, AND including the fantastically amazing BlueARP as the main built-in MIDI FX, which I'd never really checked out before, but am now kinda floored by.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=361311

I'll definitely be doing a video soon on what I love about it, but in short, besides being totally free and cross-platform, it's super powers are that:
—It's both a step-sequencer and an arpeggiator, which is NOT typical. This mean you can design very complex phrases to arpeggiate—iow, to complete repitch and reharmonize, IRT, on the fly. OR run as is without repitching.
—It's also an arp chainer, which is how you can so easily make complex phrases, by arranging sequences of arp presets.
—It's also very deep, with pretty much every normal and lots of rare parameters that you'll soon come to expect in ANY arpeggiator worthy of the name, altho the one thing it doesn't do is respond to more than 5 different held notes at a time; it's one of those arps (like Nora or Kameleono) that counts held notes from low to high, and it only goes up to 5. But believe me, you WON'T feel limited by it:)

So, together Unify and BlueARP are…quite amazing.
This is sounding like it has a Squareheads NORA feel. I wish I was wearing a sports bra. 'Pluginguru Unify'. Mental note now written near my porno lobe.

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treesineden wrote: Tue Nov 19, 2019 8:25 pm As I understand it runs when you press play, so if you have a bunch of captain plugins that are “connected” and you have the proper midi sync settings for your daw it should run when you press play.
Oh Captain plugs, so sad! Such an anti-live product. On my planet nobody plays until I play. And I play when I want. (I can take a very tough stance when my mom isn't listening.)

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This is sounding like it has a Squareheads NORA feel.
In a way… But, unlike Nora, Unify is actually fun—Plug N Play!:) (Boy, did I WANT Nora to be fun, REALLY loved the idea and the promise/premise…and actually it IS, kinda, but only after a lot of study and work. IMO.) And I am sad it's been abandoned.

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For Ableton only, but this looks incredibly fun:

https://soundmanufacture.net/modularsequencer/

https://youtu.be/oO_vJXj8w-U

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^^^
Looks great but in my opinion it does not sound very good.

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Hey!
check out MIDI Lab
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/midi-lab-by-soundigy
$55.
Perhaps a BF sale?
An intro sale?
Apparently a stand-alone and not a plugin.

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Kalamata Kid wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:51 pm Hey!
check out MIDI Lab
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/midi-lab-by-soundigy
$55.
Perhaps a BF sale?
An intro sale?
Apparently a stand-alone and not a plugin.
Well, WOW!!

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Kalamata Kid wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 5:51 pm Hey!
check out MIDI Lab
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/midi-lab-by-soundigy
Apparently a stand-alone and not a plugin.
Looks like it has all of Reaper's built-in capabilities, although with a better user experience, so I guess it'll be perfect for non-Reaper users and useful for novice Reaper-users.

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Upon further review:
Too bad Midi Lab is not a plugin.
Does Bidule cover some/most of the same ground?
And if I get Architect will it cover all that is midi in Bidule and Midi Lab?

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Kalamata Kid wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 3:16 am ^^^
Looks great but in my opinion it does not sound very good.
That was my reaction, too, I must admit. Great at chaos, not sure if equally good at control. No doubt much more is possible than was demo'ed, for sure, but how easily accessed?

I wonder, tho, how many of its controls can be modulated with other M4L devices and not just internally (where it seems the only mod devices are step sequencers…?); that whole ecosystem is beyond amazing.

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Kalamata Kid wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:45 pm Upon further review:
Too bad Midi Lab is not a plugin.
Does Bidule cover some/most of the same ground?
And if I get Architect will it cover all that is midi in Bidule and Midi Lab?
All three are certainly modular MIDI devices, but this looks to me like not only the cheapest of them, but maybe the easiest to actually use. I recently got Bidule, which is wonderful for simple things, but essentially impenetrably dense.
I really know nothing about Architect except also finding the beta…impenetrable.

One thing does seem clear to me though, which might change if enough Architect users pony up with fresh designs for it, and that is that ALL three of these, plus the M4L thing just recently mentioned, don't at all seem built on music theory as much as upon math, modulation, and logic, unlike things like Captain Chords, Blue ARP, EZKeys, Reason, Scaler, RapidComposer, etc. Which to me is like two completely different universes and purposes, and not easily combined, certainly not for beginner users to either or both realms. Iow, I don't see Architect being at all easy to use to build, say, Scaler or Captain Chords. The music theory smarts are simply not built in at anything like the same depth, unless somebody else chooses to add them. I certainly couldn't do that.

So far, I've always found the theory-based MIDI tools much more fun in the long run than the math-based ones, for which the main musical tools are just beat and scale quantizing. This MIDI Lab certainly looks like the least potentially painful way to explore blending the two realms together RIGHT NOW.

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David wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 9:15 pm
Kalamata Kid wrote: Sun Nov 24, 2019 8:45 pm Upon further review:
Too bad Midi Lab is not a plugin.
Does Bidule cover some/most of the same ground?
And if I get Architect will it cover all that is midi in Bidule and Midi Lab?
All three are certainly modular MIDI devices, but this looks to me like not only the cheapest of them, but maybe the easiest to actually use. I recently got Bidule, which is wonderful for simple things, but essentially impenetrably dense.
I really know nothing about Architect except also finding the beta…impenetrable.

One thing does seem clear to me though, which might change if enough Architect users pony up with fresh designs for it, and that is that ALL three of these, plus the M4L thing just recently mentioned, don't at all seem built on music theory as much as upon math, modulation, and logic, unlike things like Captain Chords, Blue ARP, EZKeys, Reason, Scaler, RapidComposer, etc. Which to me is like two completely different universes and purposes, and not easily combined, certainly not for beginner users to either or both realms. Iow, I don't see Architect being at all easy to use to build, say, Scaler or Captain Chords. The music theory smarts are simply not built in at anything like the same depth, unless somebody else chooses to add them. I certainly couldn't do that.

So far, I've always found the theory-based MIDI tools much more fun in the long run than the math-based ones, for which the main musical tools are just beat and scale quantizing. This MIDI Lab certainly looks like the least potentially painful way to explore blending the two realms together RIGHT NOW.
Interesting post
"impenetrable" Yep, true! well unless you spend time with the manual. But even then sometimes still does not jell.
Had not thought of the Universe theory but yea glad you mentioned it.

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One more for the list
JSFX Midi Tools - FREE but can donate
https://sites.google.com/site/octarone/ ... l-iterator
Not sure if they are plugins.

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