Plugin Alliance new transfer policy caused concerns and is corrected...
- KVRAF
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- 6980 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
The new policy of Plugin Alliance is pretty annoying, isn‘t it?
EDIT March 8th:
Policy is now officially corrected, thanks guys!
EDIT March 8th:
Policy is now officially corrected, thanks guys!
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- KVRAF
- 11519 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
Which part, specifically, is concerning? Seems reasonable to me.
- KVRAF
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Ask the sellers in the Sell&Buy thread for example...Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: ↑Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:48 pm Which part, specifically, is concerning? Seems reasonable to me.
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- KVRAF
- 2677 posts since 20 Jun, 2012
Doesn't seem that bad if you're not in the second hand license selling business.
The only thing that my be concerning is that the license becomes NFR after second transfer.
The only thing that my be concerning is that the license becomes NFR after second transfer.
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- KVRAF
- 2744 posts since 5 Dec, 2003 from Harlan's World
Does this apply to only PA branded licenses, or any plugin bought via PA?
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- KVRAF
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- 6980 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
Any plugin.
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- KVRAF
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- 6980 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Atlantis Island
Concern is concern...robotmonkey wrote: ↑Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:58 pm Doesn't seem that bad if you're not in the second hand license selling business.
The only thing that my be concerning is that the license becomes NFR after second transfer.
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- Banned
- 480 posts since 28 Apr, 2017
Very short sighted of PA. They think it will help their business but it will drive more people away. I'm no longer interested in purchasing any of their plugs because of this new policy. And I'm not in the plugin reselling business.
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- KVRAF
- 1672 posts since 3 Aug, 2017 from San Diego, CA
I’m actually surprised they didn’t impose limits like this sooner. The monthly vouchers are pretty generous, since they can be stacked on top of monthly/seasonal discounts.
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- KVRAF
- 2908 posts since 26 Oct, 2007 from Kent, UK
Yes that is a bizarre thing. PA make a little on every transfer so they're effectively cutting off their own ability to turn profit. Plus, it's unfair on that individual that for no reason related to his or herself, suddenly has less rights than the previous 'owner'.robotmonkey wrote: ↑Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:58 pm Doesn't seem that bad if you're not in the second hand license selling business.
The only thing that my be concerning is that the license becomes NFR after second transfer.
- KVRian
- 933 posts since 25 Dec, 2007 from Hamburg,Germany
Heard about it on MP,
the first concerning part was it is awfully hedged,
some passages caused more "what if" questions than a streamlined understanding.
2nd hand items now have to be declared as NFR if this is the case
and the additional high transfer fee mutates a customer into a strategic calculator
if plugins don`t serve any longer or money is needed.
If I get it right,
long-term customers are annoyed of not having ben prepared via info in advance,
means those who invested, paid money to support the company feel overwhelmed.
Interesting thread, thanks Martin for creating it.
the first concerning part was it is awfully hedged,
some passages caused more "what if" questions than a streamlined understanding.
2nd hand items now have to be declared as NFR if this is the case
and the additional high transfer fee mutates a customer into a strategic calculator
if plugins don`t serve any longer or money is needed.
If I get it right,
long-term customers are annoyed of not having ben prepared via info in advance,
means those who invested, paid money to support the company feel overwhelmed.
Interesting thread, thanks Martin for creating it.
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- KVRAF
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Seems so.
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- KVRist
- 328 posts since 7 Feb, 2015
robotmonkey wrote: ↑Sat Dec 01, 2018 5:58 pm The only thing that my be concerning is that the license becomes NFR after second transfer.
No it's First Transfer, not second. IF I buy it new and sell it. IT is NFR. "Licenses that were previously transferred to you" Meaning any licenses transferred to you. I know firsthand I bought Black box from someone who got it new for like $150. And now I'm out cause it's not listed in my transferable license. This is honestly inconceivable from a supposed first grade company.
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