Alternatives to HDelay (MH Dirty Delay on sale).... any other recommendations?
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 477 posts since 30 May, 2018
Looking at HDelay from Waves, but found Metric Halo Dirty Delay on sale at $19.
HDealy has got a low-pass high-pass, I think MH Delay has what looks like an EQ , although I am not sure.
Any opinions ?
Metric Halo Delay:
https://mhsecure.com/metric_halo/produc ... delay.html
HDealy has got a low-pass high-pass, I think MH Delay has what looks like an EQ , although I am not sure.
Any opinions ?
Metric Halo Delay:
https://mhsecure.com/metric_halo/produc ... delay.html
Reaper (win), i7-7700k, 16GB
- KVRian
- 1172 posts since 25 Jan, 2017
I just noticed their email too. Huge discount.
About what you asked, yes, DirtyDelay can eq the processed signal like H-Dealy can, and more than that because the eq seems to be more flexible with different filter shapes and more controls within the parametric interface.
First off, DirtyDelay has two separate delay lines with independent controls, which can be very useful and much more flexible.
The other main difference appears to be the the "character" capabilties.
H-Delay has a few distortion/saturation modes which are basically On-Off, with a Lo-Fi mode which again is On-Off.
DirtyDelay has several distortion/saturation modes and a dedicated Drive knob, which can dial-in a variable amount. The plugin seems much better in this compartment.
On the other side, H-Delay has modulation capabilities (although pretty basic) and another thing is the Ping-Pong "fast option", which btw should also be possible in DirtyDelay with a little more effort by appropriately setting the two independent delay lines, and I'm not sure of what the "crossfeed" knob in DirtyDelay can further do on a practical standpoint (I can't find the manual anywhere in their website, quite surprisingly).
Summing up, DirtyDelay is more tweakble and in several ways more advanced than H-Delay. But of course at times you might want to go for the simplest and more immediate approach. It depends...
I don't know. I already have H-Delay along with many other delays with different architectures spacing from basic to very complex... I have thoughts about getting DirtyDelay at this price, but I also think I might have reached the point where having too many plugins (delays in this context) is starting to be more counterproductive than anything, workflow-wise. But that's just a personal thing.
About what you asked, yes, DirtyDelay can eq the processed signal like H-Dealy can, and more than that because the eq seems to be more flexible with different filter shapes and more controls within the parametric interface.
First off, DirtyDelay has two separate delay lines with independent controls, which can be very useful and much more flexible.
The other main difference appears to be the the "character" capabilties.
H-Delay has a few distortion/saturation modes which are basically On-Off, with a Lo-Fi mode which again is On-Off.
DirtyDelay has several distortion/saturation modes and a dedicated Drive knob, which can dial-in a variable amount. The plugin seems much better in this compartment.
On the other side, H-Delay has modulation capabilities (although pretty basic) and another thing is the Ping-Pong "fast option", which btw should also be possible in DirtyDelay with a little more effort by appropriately setting the two independent delay lines, and I'm not sure of what the "crossfeed" knob in DirtyDelay can further do on a practical standpoint (I can't find the manual anywhere in their website, quite surprisingly).
Summing up, DirtyDelay is more tweakble and in several ways more advanced than H-Delay. But of course at times you might want to go for the simplest and more immediate approach. It depends...
I don't know. I already have H-Delay along with many other delays with different architectures spacing from basic to very complex... I have thoughts about getting DirtyDelay at this price, but I also think I might have reached the point where having too many plugins (delays in this context) is starting to be more counterproductive than anything, workflow-wise. But that's just a personal thing.
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 477 posts since 30 May, 2018
thanks @Niowaid... I first got interested in HDelay when I saw a demo of it being used in an EDM build-up. I think the guy just set the delay to 1/16th and modulated the dry/wet. Sounded pretty good.
I am pretty sure Dirty Delay can do this too(?)
The only other delay I have is the free Valhala Freqecho. Anyways, there's a Demo of DD available so I might give that a go.
Reaper (win), i7-7700k, 16GB
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- KVRian
- 1090 posts since 24 Jul, 2018
I'm honestly not sure what the big fuss about H-Delay is, it seems perfectly basic, which is cool, but not entirely unique.
Lately I been using the free Cocoa Delay by Tesselode because it got a drift, drive and ducking features, I think Waves would call that "analog types" and lofi mode lol. Before that my favorite was always Variety of Sound Nasty Delay but I'm trying not to use 32 bit plugins anymore.
The only 2 delays I really wanna pay money for is D16's and Soundspots Nebula because they offer unique features.
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/cocoa- ... -tesselode
Lately I been using the free Cocoa Delay by Tesselode because it got a drift, drive and ducking features, I think Waves would call that "analog types" and lofi mode lol. Before that my favorite was always Variety of Sound Nasty Delay but I'm trying not to use 32 bit plugins anymore.
The only 2 delays I really wanna pay money for is D16's and Soundspots Nebula because they offer unique features.
https://www.kvraudio.com/product/cocoa- ... -tesselode
- KVRAF
- 5677 posts since 25 Dec, 2004
is there no Pan for each delay line?
sketches... http://soundcloud.com/onesnzeros
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some artists i support... https://bandcamp.com/spectraselecta
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- KVRian
- 786 posts since 18 Apr, 2011
I like h-delay, it has a nice sound to it. One of the better waves plugins.
That said, I don’t use it too much and here is a free plug-in that I prefer to it. http://www.musicalentropy.com/SpaceshipDelay.html
That said, I don’t use it too much and here is a free plug-in that I prefer to it. http://www.musicalentropy.com/SpaceshipDelay.html
- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 477 posts since 30 May, 2018
For the DD? Don't think so.
Had a look at this .. looks pretty feature rich, potentially better than DD. Slightly less EQ control than DD but might give it a tryout.Lately I been using the free Cocoa Delay by Tesselode...
Just checked out Spaceship too - thats awesome for free.
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- KVRAF
- 1568 posts since 1 Aug, 2006 from Italy
It looks like the MH Dirty Delay is a nice tool... I have enough (probably too much) delays in my setup, otherwise I would consider getting it (especially at this price).
Another alternative to H-Delay is TAL-Dub-X... While it has a just single saturation style (with switchable position in the signal path), it offers modulation (LFO) for the filter.
The thing is... all these delays have comparable features: delay (of course!), some saturation/distortion, control of the feedback level, filtering on the feedback path, maybe some modulation and/or ping ping mode ... you will find differences on the sound (each delay has its own character - saturation/distortion plays a huge role on this) and you will likely prefer x over y, but the features are more or less comparable...
Another alternative to H-Delay is TAL-Dub-X... While it has a just single saturation style (with switchable position in the signal path), it offers modulation (LFO) for the filter.
The thing is... all these delays have comparable features: delay (of course!), some saturation/distortion, control of the feedback level, filtering on the feedback path, maybe some modulation and/or ping ping mode ... you will find differences on the sound (each delay has its own character - saturation/distortion plays a huge role on this) and you will likely prefer x over y, but the features are more or less comparable...
- KVRAF
- 5749 posts since 29 Sep, 2010 from Maui
I never could get any MH plugins to work correctly. They are re-sizable (or something) but always
re-centered the UI off the corner of the plugin window until they were unusable. Decent plugins,
but they are not very good at UI coding for windows last time I checked.
Try the demo...
re-centered the UI off the corner of the plugin window until they were unusable. Decent plugins,
but they are not very good at UI coding for windows last time I checked.
Try the demo...
- KVRist
- 38 posts since 17 Jun, 2017 from In Orbit
I found ColourCopy by U-He to be much better than I guessed, very very clean sound.. I cant raelly put in words what it does right, it simply just sounds great. https://u-he.com/products/colourcopy/
You got Sigmund by D16 too, great delay. Sandman Pro is cool too if you want some more extreme/modular version of delay.
You got Sigmund by D16 too, great delay. Sandman Pro is cool too if you want some more extreme/modular version of delay.
- KVRian
- 937 posts since 31 May, 2017
Izotope's DDLY is another one to look at in this field. It can do the saturation thing or full blown distortion (adjustable per chanel). You can also widen the stereo image for the two separate delay lines.
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- KVRist
- 384 posts since 15 Jan, 2003
For $19 (or $15.19 from Audio Deluxe when added to cart), in my humble opinion, the sale price of Metric Halo's Dirty Delay is beyond a reasonable deal. It is one of my most used delay VSTs, in spite of the fact that I have many other options available. YMMV.
- KVRAF
- 5950 posts since 16 Aug, 2017 from UK
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j04aSaTomvk
Included with Computer Music issue 235 onwards.
Toneboosters Reelbus V4 has a delay feature.
Included with Computer Music issue 235 onwards.
Toneboosters Reelbus V4 has a delay feature.
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