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Hanz Meyzer wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:52 am
el-bo (formerly ebow) wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 1:58 pm Well, unfortunately you both fail on the demo front: UVI's demo seems to crash Logic projects that include it, upon reloading. And you seem to think that inserting 6 seconds silence regularly is conducive to prospective sales :scared:

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Erm, have the same bug in the full version of UVI plate, this can happen upon initial release. Crashes on release here, macos 10.13, vst. Already send report to customersupport. Pretty sure it will be fixed, soon.
el-bo sent me a P.M and it's actually a 2CAudio plugin crashing, but it looks to be in conjunction with our product. We will investigate this.
Olivier Tristan
Developer - UVI Team
http://www.uvi.net

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otristan wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 8:24 am @cjwseven7
Would be great if you can void dissing us on french AudioFanzine without stating who you clearly are.
mdpa nickname looks very much like Michele DUCCESCHI Physical Audio especially when the account only talk on subject regarding PA.

https://fr.audiofanzine.com/reverb-algo ... 76452.html

So long for the high road...

Thanks !
I am a little confused as to how he is 'dissing' UVI when the only post says '
In fact, it's very close to PA1 Plate Reverb by Physical Audio' - it doesn't even say PA1 Plate Reverb is better!

Being this sensitive looks a little defensive, there are obviously a lot of similarities, possibly for completely legitimate and musical reasons and if the similarities exist because of a public domain academic paper then UVI are completely legitimate in developing it that way with those properties/similarities.
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installed trial twice already had latest iLok non USB and never shown up on PC besides the file being there. Doesnt show in iLok and shouldnt really reinstall-reboot for it since is newest and exists.

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acousticglue wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:14 am installed trial twice already had latest iLok non USB and never shown up on PC besides the file being there. Doesnt show in iLok and shouldnt really reinstall-reboot for it since is newest and exists.
Not sure I understand your issue here.
iLok system does requires a reboot.
Please contact our support to troubleshot this
https://support.uvi.net

Thanks !
Olivier Tristan
Developer - UVI Team
http://www.uvi.net

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acousticglue wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 9:14 am installed trial twice already had latest iLok non USB and never shown up on PC besides the file being there. Doesnt show in iLok and shouldnt really reinstall-reboot for it since is newest and exists.
Ilok havent yet solved my problem. Demo wont activate despite iLok Manager showing the contrary and when I do reinstall after rescanning Im asksed to authorise but tells me I cant as Ive made too many attempts.

I also contacted UVI at the same time and heard nothing back from them.
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cjwseven7 wrote: Thu Oct 18, 2018 11:20 pm In any case, it’s cool to see such a lively discussion about PA1. I’d be curious to get opinions about PA3 “Derailer,” which is the one I was directly involved with.
Stefan
I became very curious about it too. Unfortunately, you seem to be "stuck" in the Apple bubble (Mac only and AU only).

Until you don't get out of it, you can't expect much about, IMO. And I think you should get a better designer for the GUIs too.
Fernando (FMR)

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Yes, Apple does very ugly decisions against friendly developing. AU for sure is very powerful, but VST3 is the way to go IMO. Also one day, your plugin will stop to work, thanks to Apple.

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With UVI Plate, has anyone noticed that CPU usage creeps up dramatically when there's no audio running into it? This here on Win10-64bit, latest Reaper at 24/96 and the Plate VST2. Reaper's giving me a 2.3% plug usage with Plate processing audio, but it creeps up above 7% with nothing coming in. I believe it's easily demonstrable by playing a piece of audio, but then let Reaper loop in a silent section for 30 seconds. Also happens when the transport is stopped, which is where I first noticed it.
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cturner wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:24 am With UVI Plate, has anyone noticed that CPU usage creeps up dramatically when there's no audio running into it? This here on Win10-64bit, latest Reaper at 24/96 and the Plate VST2. Reaper's giving me a 2.3% plug usage with Plate processing audio, but it creeps up above 7% with nothing coming in. I believe it's easily demonstrable by playing a piece of audio, but then let Reaper loop in a silent section for 30 seconds. Also happens when the transport is stopped, which is where I first noticed it.
It looks like a denormal issue. Will check this.
Thanks !
Olivier Tristan
Developer - UVI Team
http://www.uvi.net

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I'm finding that when I change the quality setting the effective gain of the wet signal changes (by around 6dB across the range from low to insane, low being the loudest). I would have expected the output level to be independent of the audio quality, it could be worth looking into this if it's not intentional.

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liquidsonics wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 11:23 am I'm finding that when I change the quality setting the effective gain of the wet signal changes (by around 6dB across the range from low to insane, low being the loudest). I would have expected the output level to be independent of the audio quality, it could be worth looking into this if it's not intentional.
This is indeed not compensated. Not that trivial to implement actually. There was already some work on this regarding the plate size.
Olivier Tristan
Developer - UVI Team
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Thanks Olivier. I'm a bit concerned since the website says the insane mode is best suited to an offline render that some people will be using it in a lower intensity mode when mixing and flick it into insane mode for their final offline renders expecting a better result, but find it upsets their reverb mix levels if they didn't know to compensate manually for the subsequent drop in gain. I think it's worth a mention in the manual's technical notes section under quality where this topic is discussed to warn about the impact on reverb level if this isn't something that's easy to address with some pre-computed gain compensation look-up tables for a range of parameter values.

When I've had these sorts of issues before and it's dependent on a lot of interplay between different parameters I tend to set up a bespoke test bench tool that can automate a lot of values and pass test signals through for them all for analysis, then interpolate across the sampled set within the plugin to pull out an appropriate compensation gain.
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By offline render it means something more along track freeze.
The quality mode changes so much the sound that it's not like a better oversampling for the offline bounce.
Olivier Tristan
Developer - UVI Team
http://www.uvi.net

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OK if this isn't the intended workflow for the quality setting then fair enough. Probably not a concern in reality in this case. Thanks for explaining.

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otristan wrote: Fri Oct 19, 2018 10:35 amIt looks like a denormal issue. Will check this. Thanks !
The developer kindly provided me with an update which seems to have fixed the issue.
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