NEW: Waves Abbey Road TG Mastering Chain
- KVRAF
- 23486 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
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"Preamps have literally one job: when you turn up the gain, it gets louder." Jamcat, talking about presmp-emulation plugins.
- KVRAF
- 23486 posts since 12 Jul, 2003 from West Caprazumia
Ah, yes, sure. Sounds like you know your shit.
"Preamps have literally one job: when you turn up the gain, it gets louder." Jamcat, talking about presmp-emulation plugins.
- KVRAF
- 40263 posts since 11 Aug, 2008 from clown world
Anyone who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities.
- KVRAF
- 5948 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
Well I was able to make a cleaner sounding master with it, so that's gotta be worth something. The last track I released, I put ARTGMC in the chain and tweeked it to clean things up and see what I get. It was pretty quick to get a cleaner, nicer sounding master. perhaps I could have done it with a bit more EQ using some other EQ but ARTGMC worked well enough. I like some of the filters and the limiter imparts a nice character and sound-stage (but it also consumes a lot of CPU on my sytem). Also, the plugin band-limits quite aggressively at 20kHz so if you are working in higher project rates your UHFs will get cut off, which makes sense.
Mastered with TG Mastering in the chain, just before finalization:
https://soundcloud.com/musicofplexus/th ... -the-devil
Mastered without using TG Mastering:
https://soundcloud.com/musicofplexus/th ... ut/s-B25x4
Mastered with TG Mastering in the chain, just before finalization:
https://soundcloud.com/musicofplexus/th ... -the-devil
Mastered without using TG Mastering:
https://soundcloud.com/musicofplexus/th ... ut/s-B25x4
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- KVRian
- 901 posts since 29 Jul, 2008
- KVRAF
- 4433 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Hell
it's available at almost $30 at EveryPlugin, so i took the plunge. loading it in the plugin doctor, i can confirm that it's pretty much clean. it's so funny to read about "typical Waves crunchy saturation sound" on Gearslutz about a plugin that doesn't appear to model any saturation whatsoever.
compressor/limiter produces harmonics, but any limiter does when it's engaged. this one produces harmonics at analysis levels because it has a very soft knee and thus starts reacting way earlier. turning down the input gain (or disabling the limiter) removes the "harmonics". in other words, this plugin is completely clean as far as i can tell. that said, i don't mean it as a negative - i actually like it that way, because that means i can use it for its actual intended purpose and easily combine it with anything else without worrying about saturation building up or not liking the color it adds.
the EQ section is surprisingly versatile because of the way it is structured. the EQ has 4 bands that are all similar in operation and are switchable between hi/lo shelf and broad/medium/sharp bell, which allows both doing broad strokes as well as more precise adjustments. by no means it's an equivalent to something like a Pro-Q2, but it's flexible enough to be useful in a lot of circumstances IMO. the plugin is also oversampled and the curves are decramped as mentioned above, the EQ is completely clean, so whatever "analog character" they might add is in the curves, not in the saturation.
the compressor/limiter... i haven't tested it on a lot of material, but on drums and buses it sounds plain awesome to my ears. it is easy to set up, has good automatic gain compensation and is very musical and doesn't pump much. all modes (original, modern and limit) sound like something i would use in different circumstances, and attack/release settings are intuitive and program-dependent enough to work on a lot of things.
all in all, i'm glad i got this.
compressor/limiter produces harmonics, but any limiter does when it's engaged. this one produces harmonics at analysis levels because it has a very soft knee and thus starts reacting way earlier. turning down the input gain (or disabling the limiter) removes the "harmonics". in other words, this plugin is completely clean as far as i can tell. that said, i don't mean it as a negative - i actually like it that way, because that means i can use it for its actual intended purpose and easily combine it with anything else without worrying about saturation building up or not liking the color it adds.
the EQ section is surprisingly versatile because of the way it is structured. the EQ has 4 bands that are all similar in operation and are switchable between hi/lo shelf and broad/medium/sharp bell, which allows both doing broad strokes as well as more precise adjustments. by no means it's an equivalent to something like a Pro-Q2, but it's flexible enough to be useful in a lot of circumstances IMO. the plugin is also oversampled and the curves are decramped as mentioned above, the EQ is completely clean, so whatever "analog character" they might add is in the curves, not in the saturation.
the compressor/limiter... i haven't tested it on a lot of material, but on drums and buses it sounds plain awesome to my ears. it is easy to set up, has good automatic gain compensation and is very musical and doesn't pump much. all modes (original, modern and limit) sound like something i would use in different circumstances, and attack/release settings are intuitive and program-dependent enough to work on a lot of things.
all in all, i'm glad i got this.
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- KVRAF
- 5948 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
Incredible. Everyplugin has it for $25 after discounts and this includes renewal WUP on all my other Abbey Road waves plugins. I have them all and WUP alone is worth $190!
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- KVRAF
- 4711 posts since 26 Nov, 2015 from Way Downunder
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- KVRAF
- 2087 posts since 24 Jun, 2006 from London, England
Does anyone else have GUI issues in Ableton Live 10 (Windows/64bit) ? All the modules in the 'normal' version are darkened and the controls don't seem to move, and in the 'live' version it looks like a completely empty rack without any modules visible.
All seems fine in Reaper though ...
All seems fine in Reaper though ...
- KVRAF
- 4433 posts since 15 Nov, 2006 from Hell
i stand corrected - the "modern" mode is indeed very clean, but both "original" and "limit" modes model saturation, and so gain staging does make some difference here. that said, as was mentioned by one of the previous posters, the saturation is extremely subtle, and is only present if the comp/limiter is engaged (and you have to load the input with a lot of signal for it to become audible).
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Scarlet Pumpernickel Scarlet Pumpernickel https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=402106
- KVRist
- 239 posts since 30 Jul, 2017
- KVRAF
- 5948 posts since 8 Jul, 2009
Oh hey. I have them all separately.Scarlet Pumpernickel wrote: ↑Thu Oct 18, 2018 10:20 pmHey Plexuss, did you buy Abbey Road plugins as a bundle or purchased them one by one?
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- KVRist
- 239 posts since 30 Jul, 2017
That leaves me some hope. Thank you for taking a time to answer.