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Stanoli · Post by **Stanoli** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:10 pm

UAD A/DA Flanger sounds splendid.

jens · Post by **jens** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:30 pm

No-one mentioned the Hofa one yet, which is weird, given that it is easily amongst the best...

ReelBus 4 is overall a fantastic multi-fx plugin. Everyone should have it.

EvilDragon · Post by **EvilDragon** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:33 pm

I love Satin's flanger mode, and NI Flair too.

Unaspected · Post by **Unaspected** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 9:53 pm

My goto flanger is still Audio Damage's Liquid.

Russell Grand · Post by **Russell Grand** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:04 pm

Halonmusic wrote:TAL Flanger

Even though I prefer Flair, TAL Flanger is a fantastic flanger, free or otherwise. I've been using it as my go-to for a couple years.

Russell Grand · Post by **Russell Grand** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:05 pm

midi_transmission wrote:I tried the flair flanger from NI yesterday. Doesn't sound lush or musical for me. Not my kind of sound.

That's a shame that it didn't click with you. It's an exceptional flanger...

Russell Grand · Post by **Russell Grand** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:05 pm

Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote:I'm very happy with everything in the NI Mod Pack and could live with those 3 to cover just about all my basic flanging, chorus, and phasing needs.

+1

Russell Grand · Post by **Russell Grand** » Wed Jun 13, 2018 11:09 pm

ChamomileShark wrote:I've also been a bit disappointed with software chorus, flangers and phasers (although hardware phasers vary alot) - I suspect that's because I've got hardware versions and somehow they don't sound the same. It's not the same with delay though - someone did explain to me why it's harder to do modulation FX in software but I've forgotten.

I think for me the best sounding flanger would be the Valhalla Space Modulator. I've not tried the NI one though.

It's true, modulator plugs just don't cut it compared to hardware.

As for NI Flair: it seems people either love it or think it's crap.

So who knows, you might not be missing anything. Still, if you get the time, I give a friendly suggestion that you try out the Mod Pack when you get a chance. Just be prepared that it certainly doesn't stack up to hardware.

Halonmusic · Post by **Halonmusic** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:06 am

Russell Grand wrote:
Halonmusic wrote:TAL Flanger
Even though I prefer Flair, TAL Flanger is a fantastic flanger, free or otherwise. I've been using it as my go-to for a couple years.

Yeah. It has that 'sound' that no Flanger (at least to my knowledge) is capable of doing. Very unique.

s28 · Post by **s28** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 12:42 am

ChamomileShark wrote:I've also been a bit disappointed with software chorus, flangers and phasers (although hardware phasers vary alot) - I suspect that's because I've got hardware versions and somehow they don't sound the same. It's not the same with delay though - someone did explain to me why it's harder to do modulation FX in software but I've forgotten.

I think for me the best sounding flanger would be the Valhalla Space Modulator. I've not tried the NI one though.

Yeah for ages I felt itb processors were lacking there.

I have found a few I'm very happy with over the last year or so:

Chorus - Tritik Echorus - amazing chorusing device with a deep sound.

Flanger - as I posted earlier in the thread space modulator and reelbus 4 - both great respectively.

Phaser - Admiral Quality Stunning Phaser - best phaser I've heard itb, very rich sounding.

The Chase · Post by **The Chase** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 1:10 am

ChamomileShark wrote:I've also been a bit disappointed with software chorus, flangers and phasers

+1. I consider it one of the very few remaining categories where a significant gap remains between analog and digital. Especially with phasers. Weirdly enough I think software does a really good job with chorus, but big unsubtle flanger/phaser sounds struggle.

I like how a good analog phaser doesn't require a bunch of stages or feedback to get a good sound; you get a real full creamy sound from 4 or even 2 stages with a touch of feedback. Most software I find myself cranking it to 8 or 12 for a good sound. Not the same.

Cinebient · Post by **Cinebient** » Thu Jun 14, 2018 2:41 am

But a must is a zero delay feedback path for me.

dubguy99 · Post by **dubguy99** » Fri Jun 15, 2018 10:45 am

The Chase wrote:
ChamomileShark wrote:I've also been a bit disappointed with software chorus, flangers and phasers
+1. I consider it one of the very few remaining categories where a significant gap remains between analog and digital. Especially with phasers. Weirdly enough I think software does a really good job with chorus, but big unsubtle flanger/phaser sounds struggle.

I like how a good analog phaser doesn't require a bunch of stages or feedback to get a good sound; you get a real full creamy sound from 4 or even 2 stages with a touch of feedback. Most software I find myself cranking it to 8 or 12 for a good sound. Not the same.

Try the Softube Fix Phaser, it's ridicously CPU intensive for a phaser (10% with Live on my i5) but it sounds sooooo creamy and 'real' for the lack of a better word. D16's Fazortan is also very nice, not as 'real' as the softube but still very thick and creamy, despite being a bit older (and luckily, not nearly as CPU intensive). For my money these are the two creamiest and thickest and I've tried virtually every analog-style VST phaser. The Yamaha vintage pack phasers are also fairly nice but the emulations are a bit slavish for my taste (no dry/wet control?)

And oh yeah, despite being ancient, PhaseMistress can sound fairly thick and lush at low stages but it has a fairly small sweetspot, you need the right combination of polarity settings, feedback, center freq, res stages and phase stages, otherwise it sounds very small and tinny like most of the presets.

s28 · Post by **s28** » Fri Jun 15, 2018 1:53 pm

dubguy99 wrote:
The Chase wrote:
ChamomileShark wrote:I've also been a bit disappointed with software chorus, flangers and phasers
+1. I consider it one of the very few remaining categories where a significant gap remains between analog and digital. Especially with phasers. Weirdly enough I think software does a really good job with chorus, but big unsubtle flanger/phaser sounds struggle.

I like how a good analog phaser doesn't require a bunch of stages or feedback to get a good sound; you get a real full creamy sound from 4 or even 2 stages with a touch of feedback. Most software I find myself cranking it to 8 or 12 for a good sound. Not the same.
Try the Softube Fix Phaser, it's ridicously CPU intensive for a phaser (10% with Live on my i5) but it sounds sooooo creamy and 'real' for the lack of a better word. D16's Fazortan is also very nice, not as 'real' as the softube but still very thick and creamy, despite being a bit older (and luckily, not nearly as CPU intensive). For my money these are the two creamiest and thickest and I've tried virtually every analog-style VST phaser. The Yamaha vintage pack phasers are also fairly nice but the emulations are a bit slavish for my taste (no dry/wet control?)

And oh yeah, despite being ancient, PhaseMistress can sound fairly thick and lush at low stages but it has a fairly small sweetspot, you need the right combination of polarity settings, feedback, center freq, res stages and phase stages, otherwise it sounds very small and tinny like most of the presets.

I haven't tried the softube one, I won't demo it atm as I'm stopping buying things for a while - but have you tried admiral qualitys stunning phaser? Such a good effect and sound very real as well.

dubguy99 · Post by **dubguy99** » Fri Jun 15, 2018 8:56 pm

s28 wrote:
dubguy99 wrote:
The Chase wrote:
ChamomileShark wrote:I've also been a bit disappointed with software chorus, flangers and phasers
+1. I consider it one of the very few remaining categories where a significant gap remains between analog and digital. Especially with phasers. Weirdly enough I think software does a really good job with chorus, but big unsubtle flanger/phaser sounds struggle.

I like how a good analog phaser doesn't require a bunch of stages or feedback to get a good sound; you get a real full creamy sound from 4 or even 2 stages with a touch of feedback. Most software I find myself cranking it to 8 or 12 for a good sound. Not the same.
Try the Softube Fix Phaser, it's ridicously CPU intensive for a phaser (10% with Live on my i5) but it sounds sooooo creamy and 'real' for the lack of a better word. D16's Fazortan is also very nice, not as 'real' as the softube but still very thick and creamy, despite being a bit older (and luckily, not nearly as CPU intensive). For my money these are the two creamiest and thickest and I've tried virtually every analog-style VST phaser. The Yamaha vintage pack phasers are also fairly nice but the emulations are a bit slavish for my taste (no dry/wet control?)

And oh yeah, despite being ancient, PhaseMistress can sound fairly thick and lush at low stages but it has a fairly small sweetspot, you need the right combination of polarity settings, feedback, center freq, res stages and phase stages, otherwise it sounds very small and tinny like most of the presets.

I haven't tried the softube one, I won't demo it atm as I'm stopping buying things for a while - but have you tried admiral qualitys stunning phaser? Such a good effect and sound very real as well.

I did try it, it's not bad but I'm just not really vibing with it for some reason.

best flanger in 2018