Zynaptiq Adaptiverb released

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collider
KVRist
140 posts since 14 Jun, 2018

Post Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:42 am

I bought ADAPTIVERB and WORMHOLE at once - now it's time to learn the plug-ins.

Neon Breath
KVRAF
3487 posts since 15 Sep, 2010

Re: Zynaptiq Adaptiverb released

Post Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:44 am

collider wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:42 am
I bought ADAPTIVERB and WORMHOLE at once - now it's time to learn the plug-ins.
Correction: now it's time to have a blast with the plug-ins!
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mister-rz
KVRist
153 posts since 30 Jun, 2012

Re: Zynaptiq Adaptiverb released

Post Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:13 pm

The honeymoon period with adaptiverb has never ended for me, one of my favourite plugins. I only ask two small favours denis, could future updates allow you to choose which formats get added, as I have no use for aax and rtas. Last fav, wormhole sale next if the elves ok it.

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martinjuenke
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4245 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Hanover, Germany

Re: Zynaptiq Adaptiverb released

Post Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:23 pm

How about Orange Vocoder new version?

Neon Breath
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3487 posts since 15 Sep, 2010

Re: Zynaptiq Adaptiverb released

Post Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:25 pm

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martinjuenke
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4245 posts since 28 Dec, 2015 from Hanover, Germany

Re: Zynaptiq Adaptiverb released

Post Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:27 pm

Neon Breath wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:25 pm
Already a thread here: viewtopic.php?f=6&t=499187&p=7426498&hi ... e#p7426498
Yes, but that didn‘t help to speed up things...

zynaptiq
KVRist
313 posts since 13 Jan, 2012 from In the studio, in front of computer.

Re: Zynaptiq Adaptiverb released

Post Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:58 am

mister-rz wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:13 pm
  • could future updates allow you to choose which formats get added, as I have no use for aax and rtas.
  • Last fav, wormhole sale next if the elves ok it.
#1: we do plan on creating more elaborate installers yes, though it may take a while.

#2: last time I saw the elves they were doing lot of acid and telling me that they went THROUGH the WORMHOLE. I didn't get much sense out of them at the time – they were really trippin' – but looking at the neutrino emission spectrums of that day it seems plausible that they did, indeed, go through and then played with ACID Pro Next on the other side :D
Zynaptiq - Audio Software Based On Artificial Intelligence Technology, makers of PITCHMAP: Real-Time Polyphonic Pitch Correction And Mapping.

zynaptiq
KVRist
313 posts since 13 Jan, 2012 from In the studio, in front of computer.

Re: Zynaptiq Adaptiverb released

Post Wed Jun 19, 2019 3:59 am

martinjuenke wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 1:23 pm
How about Orange Vocoder new version?
Working on it. We don't ship stuff until we're 200% happy. This one will be really awesome.
Zynaptiq - Audio Software Based On Artificial Intelligence Technology, makers of PITCHMAP: Real-Time Polyphonic Pitch Correction And Mapping.

mister-rz
KVRist
153 posts since 30 Jun, 2012

Re: Zynaptiq Adaptiverb released

Post Wed Jun 19, 2019 11:54 am

open -a Dimethyltryptamine_Decoder.app ver 5_Me0

insert message below

"last time I saw the elves they were doing lot of acid and telling me that they went THROUGH the WORMHOLE. I didn't get much sense out of them at the time – they were really trippin' – but looking at the neutrino emission spectrums of that day it seems plausible that they did, indeed, go through and then played with ACID Pro Next on the other side :D"

run

processing.

processing..

processing...

# message decoded--type response below line
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"great looking forward to wormhole finally being mine \ send my regards to the elves"

$ send

Kinh
KVRian
1258 posts since 26 Aug, 2012

Re: Zynaptiq Adaptiverb released

Post Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:58 pm

zynaptiq wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:48 am
Kinh wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:43 am
The live mode only cuts latency of the track the instance is on. It does absolutely nothing to other tracks. I'm talking about other midi tracks that dont have instances on or anything.
That indicates that your DAW doesn't update its latency correction scheme when a plugin sends an update. There are one or two hosts that "work" that way. The normal behavior is that in LIVE mode, NO latency is introduced ANYWHERE - in "exchange" the reverb tail will be late. If that's not the case, then the DAW isn't updating something it should be updating. In those cases, save the session & reload - that SHOULD force an update of the latency compensation engine. If not please contact our support so we can get some more detailed information on your configuration.
It's been 2 days and I haven't heard from support yet, is it normal to take this long?

If what you say is the only solution to this latency I'm fairly confident it cant be resolved; resetting my daw was the first thing I tried.

I noticed someone else on the other page had this problem in Ableton 9. I'm curious does anyone else get a delay on other midi tracks from your keyboard when there's an Adaptiverb in your session?

zynaptiq
KVRist
313 posts since 13 Jan, 2012 from In the studio, in front of computer.

Re: Zynaptiq Adaptiverb released

Post Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:08 am

OK; LIVE indeed doesn't update latency when we notify it of the change. Technically speaking, Live ignores changes to the basics of a plugin unless they are sent from the UI thread. Our plugins send latency updates from the DSP thread, as that is the only "source of truth" – the UI may not be open when the latency changes, for example when using hardware controllers or automation.

Luckily there is a work-around: when using VST2, toggle the plugin off/on using Ableton's "power on" button (rather than the Bypass in the plugin UI) – this forces the latency to be updated:

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Kinh wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:58 pm
It's been 2 days and I haven't heard from support yet, is it normal to take this long?
This is incorrect. Please check your SPAM folder. For the record: you emailed us June 18th 13:22 CET and received the first reply 5 minutes later, 13:27 CET :D . Our product specialist then sent you an email with a work-around June 19th, 15:14 CET.
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cron
KVRAF
3251 posts since 27 Dec, 2002 from North East England

Re: Zynaptiq Adaptiverb released

Post Thu Jun 20, 2019 12:33 am

(Note: Zynaptiq beat me to the reply with a workaround while I was writing this post)
Kinh wrote:
Wed Jun 19, 2019 10:58 pm
zynaptiq wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:48 am
Kinh wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 2:43 am
The live mode only cuts latency of the track the instance is on. It does absolutely nothing to other tracks. I'm talking about other midi tracks that dont have instances on or anything.
That indicates that your DAW doesn't update its latency correction scheme when a plugin sends an update. There are one or two hosts that "work" that way. The normal behavior is that in LIVE mode, NO latency is introduced ANYWHERE - in "exchange" the reverb tail will be late. If that's not the case, then the DAW isn't updating something it should be updating. In those cases, save the session & reload - that SHOULD force an update of the latency compensation engine. If not please contact our support so we can get some more detailed information on your configuration.
It's been 2 days and I haven't heard from support yet, is it normal to take this long?

If what you say is the only solution to this latency I'm fairly confident it cant be resolved; resetting my daw was the first thing I tried.

I noticed someone else on the other page had this problem in Ableton 9. I'm curious does anyone else get a delay on other midi tracks from your keyboard when there's an Adaptiverb in your session?
I can't speak for Adaptiverb specifically, but I ended up jumping off the Ableton ship because Live's PDC handling was abysmal. Delay added to every track except one is something I thought was technically impossible (surely everything should be delayed or nothing should be, right?) yet it barely registers as a surprise because Live's PDC constantly managed to break new boundaries in terms of just how bizarrely/annoyingly it could mess with your project.

I remember reading there was a fairly significant improvement made a few years into Live 9's lifecycle in a 9.x update, but I can't say how effective it was because I decided not to upgrade and went elsewhere when early adopters confirmed that 9.0's initial release hadn't improved things. If you're anywhere near as lax with keeping your software up to date as I am, it might be worth double-checking you're on the latest version, or at least a version after whichever 9.x update supposedly tightened up PDC handling.

I feel your pain either way. I adored everything else about Live.

Blaster
KVRist
411 posts since 22 Apr, 2004 from Ireland

Re: Zynaptiq Adaptiverb released

Post Thu Jun 20, 2019 1:31 am

There should have been further improvements in PDC in Ableton Live 10.

metaside
KVRist
145 posts since 11 Oct, 2012

Re: Zynaptiq Adaptiverb released

Post Sun Aug 04, 2019 10:27 am

For me, Ableton 10 projects with the updated Adaptiverb (1.2.1) do NOT load Adaptiverb anymore when reopening the project! I always have to load the plugin again. It's as if Ableton does not recognize that the project was saved with exactly the plugin that is in my plugin list. This never happened to me before with any Zynaptiq plugin ort any other plugin for that matter.

Anyone else with this problem or is this some strange system-specific thing?

SteveWZ
KVRian
981 posts since 26 Feb, 2016

Re: Zynaptiq Adaptiverb released

Post Tue Aug 06, 2019 12:05 am

Neon Breath wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:44 am
collider wrote:
Tue Jun 18, 2019 6:42 am
I bought ADAPTIVERB and WORMHOLE at once - now it's time to learn the plug-ins.
Correction: now it's time to have a blast with the plug-ins!
Learning the plugins AND having a blast with them ARE the same thing in my book.

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