Yes, this can be an issue as the latency is pretty huge. It depends on what you are doing if using a different plug will help because the sound of Adaptiverb can be a big part of why you have it there in the first place, e.g. with the resynthesis options you could have a choral flavour reverb over guitars or strings that becomes quite an important element (usually by accident for me) so vanilla reverbs can't replace that.Nimrod7 wrote:Hey guys,
It may mentioned already, but how you work with Adaptiverb?
Once I add it to a bus, Logic becomes very laggy due to latency, that is impossible to compose anything from that point on.
I can add it with the song is done, but is kind of useless that way since I can't hear it when composing.
How you work with it?
Thanks,
I typically pop it into 'live mode' so the DAW is usable and then with luck I'll remember to turn it off before print. In fairness with drones it doesn't matter so much, just dial in your pre-delay and off you go, the proper high latency mode shouldn't be a problem once you are mixing rather than playing but it can get weird having a latency as large as this. I don't know how it works in other DAWs but I have found it helps to deactivate and reactivate the plugin in Ableton to get it to poll for the new latency value if you've changed it. In general I'll use it as an insert and then freeze & flatten once I'm happy with the sound so mixing is faster (mostly by avoiding the endless tweaking and fuckaboutery that I'm prone to do).
Here's the manual http://www.zynaptiq.com/fileadmin/resou ... 10.pdf.zip on it:
ADAPTIVERB does some heavy mathematics. More important than the raw amount of
calculations required is the fact that it needs to look at a certain amount of input signal to do
what it does. This translates into a noticeable processing delay of up to 11264 samples. The
actual amount depends on which modules are used, and is spread out over the components of
ADAPTIVERB as follows:
• BIONIC SUSTAIN SYNTH with ALLPASS reverb: 4096 samples
• RAY-TRACING REVERB: 3072 samples
• HCF: 4096 samples !
So basically, the minimum latency achievable is 4096 samples, as the BIONIC SUSTAIN
RESYNTH, being the heart of the plugin, is always active. Using RAY-TRACING REVERB instead
of ALLPASS, for example, increases the latency to 7168 samples. SUSTAIN & ALLPASS plus
HCF weighs in at 8192 samples.
ADAPTIVERB features a LIVE MODE, switchable using the little clock shaped button in the
header bar. When in LIVE mode, the plugin will report zero latency to the host, and disables its
internal dry path delay. As a result, the dry path is latency free, and the effect signal will be
late by the amount of samples that corresponds to the combination of modules used – and,
most importantly, the latency compensation of your DAW does not need to move around all
other tracks. Use this mode for example if you want to play virtual instruments live, or capture
a live input – or if you are using a Pre-Delay setting in the same ballpark as the plugin latency
anyway (make sure to adjust the Pre Delay accordingly). Obviously, the fact that the reverb
tail is late makes this mode most useful with long tails and a REVERB MIX of 100%.
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