Big Rusty Drums - exactly what it says, and only $9 until the end of February

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DSmolken
KVRian
1459 posts since 20 Sep, 2013 from Poland

Post Mon Feb 11, 2019 12:38 am

https://www.karoryfer.com/karoryfer-sam ... usty-drums

https://youtu.be/T0iazmNf6wY

So, after the surprising popularity of Secret Agent Guitar, I sampled another old Polish instrument. This time it's not a government factory product, but a drum kit made in a one-man workshop by Zygmunt Szpaderski. He was probably the most important drum maker in Poland from the 1950s to the 1990s, and made his own hardware, heads and everything, plus he seemed like a very nice person. Maybe spending almost 100 hours working on samples of drums that cost barely more than $100 is unreasonable, but I don't care - I like the sound, the drums are unique and interesting, and I got some great big sounds out of them.

More about the kit itself:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N7rN0XFxLWE

And, yeah, we'll sample another expensive luxury instrument someday (a couple of our free libraries are of instruments worth thousands of dollars already), but next is probably a Polish hollowbody bass from 1972.

These drums are $9 until the end of February 2019, then $39 regular price.

Spitfire31
KVRAF
2813 posts since 18 May, 2003 from Sweden

Re: Big Rusty Drums - exactly what it says, and only $9 until the end of February

Post Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:21 am

I just love your videos, man! And Big Rusty Drums sound just like I want them – not nice and easy, but nice…

…and ROUGH!

Instant buy, of course. The no-brainiest no brainer so far!

/Joachim
If it were easy, anybody could do it!

DSmolken
KVRian
1459 posts since 20 Sep, 2013 from Poland

Re: Big Rusty Drums - exactly what it says, and only $9 until the end of February

Post Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:52 am

Spitfire31 wrote:
Mon Feb 11, 2019 2:21 am
not nice and easy, but nice…

…and ROUGH!
Well put! I just updated the page - those are now the first words of the description.

Spitfire31
KVRAF
2813 posts since 18 May, 2003 from Sweden

Re: Big Rusty Drums - exactly what it says, and only $9 until the end of February

Post Mon Feb 11, 2019 3:47 am

A shameless quote from the Queen of Rock'n'Roll, Ms Tina Turner, introducing Proud Mary, live concert, 1982… ;-)

/Joachim
If it were easy, anybody could do it!

DSmolken
KVRian
1459 posts since 20 Sep, 2013 from Poland

Re: Big Rusty Drums - exactly what it says, and only $9 until the end of February

Post Mon Feb 11, 2019 10:07 am

Ah, I didn't know that, but it's probably about the right era for these drums, so it fits even better.

Szpaderski didn't keep any records, but the kick legs are copied from the Rogers Big R so it can't be earlier than 1975, and also rack toms with depth equal to diameter were an 80s thing - Slingerland Magnums appeared in 1980 I think. But by 1987 Szpaderski was using a different logo and heavier lugs. So, early 80s is my best guess.

sleepcircle
KVRian
540 posts since 28 Nov, 2016

Re: Big Rusty Drums - exactly what it says, and only $9 until the end of February

Post Mon Feb 11, 2019 4:09 pm

considering what it cost you, i will wait until it comes off sale to buy them.

it's funny that you put "low-fi hip-hop" in there, because that's more or less the use i had in mind for them—to start with, anyway—not exactly hip-hop, but certainly a "drum loop that sounds like it is from a cassette recording of some band no-one ever heard of which was found for 75¢ in the bargain bin of a kmart in the 80s"

DSmolken
KVRian
1459 posts since 20 Sep, 2013 from Poland

Re: Big Rusty Drums - exactly what it says, and only $9 until the end of February

Post Mon Feb 11, 2019 11:52 pm

Yeah, exactly. Sounds like something hip-hop would have sampled back in the day, especially if you mess with the controls. If I dampened the toms and snare less and hit everything harder, these drums could probably do a decent 80s hard rock sound, but I'd rather leave that to others.

And, yeah, you're gonna get your old Polish hollowbody bass next. At least I think you're one of the people who've been really excited about that since I first mentioned the idea. Now waiting for strings to arrive (medium-scale flatwounds aren't that easy to get in this country), also gonna decide whether to record it with just one pickup or get the other one fixed and do both wired in stereo + mic samples. Which would be excessive, but what exceeds like excess? Nothing, that's what.

sleepcircle
KVRian
540 posts since 28 Nov, 2016

Re: Big Rusty Drums - exactly what it says, and only $9 until the end of February

Post Tue Feb 12, 2019 12:20 am

i have been feverishly excited about it. yes.
i am amazingly stoked to hear that you found a good one--i am sure that whatever you choose to do will be wonderful.

Clearscreen
KVRist
175 posts since 11 Jul, 2004 from Melbourne, Australia

Re: Big Rusty Drums - exactly what it says, and only $9 until the end of February

Post Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:01 am

Great stuff! I picked up Swirly drums recently and I use it almost exclusively at the moment! Really creative and unusual drums! Love it!

steff3
KVRian
569 posts since 7 Oct, 2006

Re: Big Rusty Drums - exactly what it says, and only $9 until the end of February

Post Tue Feb 12, 2019 1:45 am

will there be a Kontakt version as well? (as with swirly drums)

thanks

DSmolken
KVRian
1459 posts since 20 Sep, 2013 from Poland

Re: Big Rusty Drums - exactly what it says, and only $9 until the end of February

Post Tue Feb 12, 2019 2:04 am

Kontakt - highly unlikely. It was a lot of extra work and didn't seem to affect sales much. But I still want to try HALion or HISE sometime, maybe for some smaller free instrument.

More unusual drums in the future is highly likely, though, I'm assembling a giant snare and need to figure out what to fit that into.

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Dillinger
KVRist
135 posts since 2 Apr, 2016

Re: Big Rusty Drums - exactly what it says, and only $9 until the end of February

Post Tue Feb 12, 2019 4:28 am

Don’t leave out the Falcon sampler, it even supports sfz

Interesting chatector to this kit, great find, new customer.

DSmolken
KVRian
1459 posts since 20 Sep, 2013 from Poland

Re: Big Rusty Drums - exactly what it says, and only $9 until the end of February

Post Tue Feb 12, 2019 5:02 am

True, that's another good option. I've just started out with SFZ because that works well for free instruments (users don't need to pay for the full version of Kontakt), but Falcon also seems like a very capable sampler I should take a look at sometime, whenever I take a break from cranking out instruments long enough to learn something new.

goldglob
KVRian
741 posts since 10 Jan, 2007 from London

Re: Big Rusty Drums - exactly what it says, and only $9 until the end of February

Post Wed Feb 13, 2019 8:04 am

Big Rusty Drums sounds wonderful. The extensive controls/parameters are incredible. The amount of work you've put into this is astonishing (as is your moustache!).

DSmolken
KVRian
1459 posts since 20 Sep, 2013 from Poland

Re: Big Rusty Drums - exactly what it says, and only $9 until the end of February

Post Wed Feb 13, 2019 12:02 pm

Thanks! It probably took about 100-120 hours of work, including the manual and walkthrough and getting enough rust off the tension rods that a tuning key would fit over all of them. The mustache took about a year and a half to grow that long.

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