I did a duo gig with a lifelong friend who has the worst stagefright of anyone i know. Had him stay backstage with a guitar cord out to my setup. Played a kind of Fripp/Eno gig. People loved it. At the end i introduced him as my invisible guitarist he still wouldn’t come out.
How do I prep for a release on BC
- KVRAF
- 2266 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit NE US
gadgets an gizmos..make noise https://soundcloud.com/crystalawareness Restocked: 3/24
old stuff http://ww.dancingbearaudioresearch.com/
if this post is edited -it was for punctuation, grammar, or to make it coherent (or make me seem coherent).
old stuff http://ww.dancingbearaudioresearch.com/
if this post is edited -it was for punctuation, grammar, or to make it coherent (or make me seem coherent).
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 40 posts since 28 Aug, 2019
Stage fright is no joke I know I have it. Wish I was at that gig.CrystalWizard wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:31 pmI did a duo gig with a lifelong friend who has the worst stagefright of anyone i know. Had him stay backstage with a guitar cord out to my setup. Played a kind of Fripp/Eno gig. People loved it. At the end i introduced him as my invisible guitarist he still wouldn’t come out.
- KVRAF
- 2266 posts since 10 Jul, 2008 from Orbit NE US
Most people have it to some degree, even many famous rock stars.
Thanks, there’s a small chop on my sound cloud “crystal dew”
Thanks, there’s a small chop on my sound cloud “crystal dew”
gadgets an gizmos..make noise https://soundcloud.com/crystalawareness Restocked: 3/24
old stuff http://ww.dancingbearaudioresearch.com/
if this post is edited -it was for punctuation, grammar, or to make it coherent (or make me seem coherent).
old stuff http://ww.dancingbearaudioresearch.com/
if this post is edited -it was for punctuation, grammar, or to make it coherent (or make me seem coherent).
- KVRian
- 643 posts since 17 Aug, 2015 from Finland
I have at least one piece of advice on how not to prepare for an album release, but since that's not the question being asked here...
My solo projects:
Hekkräiser (experimental) | MFG38 (electronic/soundtrack) | The Santtu Pesonen Project (metal/prog)
Hekkräiser (experimental) | MFG38 (electronic/soundtrack) | The Santtu Pesonen Project (metal/prog)
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 40 posts since 28 Aug, 2019
Well let's hear it then How should one NOT prepare for a debut album release on BC?AsPeeXXXVIII wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:35 pm I have at least one piece of advice on how not to prepare for an album release, but since that's not the question being asked here...
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 40 posts since 28 Aug, 2019
Realised I dont have the stems to master, but only the live mix file, so now I'm going to export the stes as. wav and see what I can do for mastering the track. There's a question for you all. Do you always use stems for the master or just do it inside the live file(with all instruments ans vst's already mixed)?
- KVRian
- 643 posts since 17 Aug, 2015 from Finland
Well, if you really want to hear it, here goes:AndonHH wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:15 pmWell let's hear it then How should one NOT prepare for a debut album release on BC?AsPeeXXXVIII wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:35 pm I have at least one piece of advice on how not to prepare for an album release, but since that's not the question being asked here...
Don't just push an album out there with next to no marketing and expect to be earning four-digit numbers from selling it within a week. I did that mistake with my first release - including the second half, no joke. As jancivil said, the best way to generate interest is by playing live shows. Unless you're the one-in-a-million kind and become a viral hit, you're bound to drown in the sea of music if your music simply existing on the Internet is all the publicity you rely on.
My solo projects:
Hekkräiser (experimental) | MFG38 (electronic/soundtrack) | The Santtu Pesonen Project (metal/prog)
Hekkräiser (experimental) | MFG38 (electronic/soundtrack) | The Santtu Pesonen Project (metal/prog)
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 40 posts since 28 Aug, 2019
Thanks for the feedback. It's not about money, it's about being better at making music, about growth as an artist as a musician as a person. It's about people like me helping eachother, sharing knowledge and tips. I have been an artist all my life so far, drawing and I know dead well art does not feed the family, it's a hoby and something, that helps me clear my mind and self. As for marketing I made an Insta, FB, and BC pages to share my process and path with like minded people, I dont plan to throw money at FB or whatever, it's not going to do anything for me. My plan is simple: Make tracks, ask for feedback, find people from labels and blogs, chat with them about music and enjoy my self while learning as much as I can, if someone buys a track or two It's awesome, but not the goal. Sorry for the rant, im in the mood I guess. Will post the re-mastered track (as much as I know about how to master a track ) soon.AsPeeXXXVIII wrote: ↑Tue Oct 01, 2019 12:08 pmWell, if you really want to hear it, here goes:AndonHH wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 3:15 pmWell let's hear it then How should one NOT prepare for a debut album release on BC?AsPeeXXXVIII wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 1:35 pm I have at least one piece of advice on how not to prepare for an album release, but since that's not the question being asked here...
Don't just push an album out there with next to no marketing and expect to be earning four-digit numbers from selling it within a week. I did that mistake with my first release - including the second half, no joke. As jancivil said, the best way to generate interest is by playing live shows. Unless you're the one-in-a-million kind and become a viral hit, you're bound to drown in the sea of music if your music simply existing on the Internet is all the publicity you rely on.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 40 posts since 28 Aug, 2019
Here is the mastered and released track on BCamp.
https://seldt.bandcamp.com/track/dream-153-calmedit
CC is welcome
https://seldt.bandcamp.com/track/dream-153-calmedit
CC is welcome
- KVRAF
- 4290 posts since 31 Oct, 2004
I think it's a good idea to add as many tag as possible as long as they are relevant.
Well, it depends on what you consider spam. You have to promote your music somewhere so at least some people know you exist. It gives you a bit of exposure. I know from experience that posting music in genre-related facebook groups gives a few listens, and if people like it you get comments and even sales. It worked for me most of the time.
If the label has exposure, it will help, but if it has none or very little it won't change anything.AndonHH wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:55 pmOh, touched music label and Milieu are favs of mine too <3 Man if I get to a level good ennough to release with Touched I will fly away with a rainbow coming off the back end:) ) I did release
https://bludclotrecordings.bandcamp.com ... al-sadness
with Blubcloth once and that was it. How can this help me?
Nowadays, I think that building a relationship with your audience via YouTube vlogs is the way to go. It's through common interests that people gather, and YouTube is probably the most powerful platform for that. The barrier to entry is a good camera and a good mic.
It surprises me but it's very interesting to know. Are you 100% it's the Facebook algorithms that are responsible for the ads being less efficient?
You're welcome! Like vurt said, posting in FB groups can't hurt and at least it's free.AndonHH wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:55 pmMy goal at this point with this first release will be to gather a small fan base of listeners, who will follow me on Bcamp, SC, FB, Insta and will share my posts. If someone pays for a track or two even better, but for now I care to find my people Thank you so much for this awesome repply! It got me thinking about so many new things I never knew about.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 40 posts since 28 Aug, 2019
Thank you for the conprehensive repply. I will try my best to gather more knowledge and apply it to the process. Tonight I exported the stems to the next track, which is really weird, complex, faced pase electro, idm, glith thing. Will probably spent at least two nights until I am happy with it and call it done. Goint to post the wip here in the morning. Thank you #everyone!SampleScience wrote: ↑Wed Oct 02, 2019 5:24 pmI think it's a good idea to add as many tag as possible as long as they are relevant.
Well, it depends on what you consider spam. You have to promote your music somewhere so at least some people know you exist. It gives you a bit of exposure. I know from experience that posting music in genre-related facebook groups gives a few listens, and if people like it you get comments and even sales. It worked for me most of the time.
If the label has exposure, it will help, but if it has none or very little it won't change anything.AndonHH wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:55 pmOh, touched music label and Milieu are favs of mine too <3 Man if I get to a level good ennough to release with Touched I will fly away with a rainbow coming off the back end:) ) I did release
https://bludclotrecordings.bandcamp.com ... al-sadness
with Blubcloth once and that was it. How can this help me?
Nowadays, I think that building a relationship with your audience via YouTube vlogs is the way to go. It's through common interests that people gather, and YouTube is probably the most powerful platform for that. The barrier to entry is a good camera and a good mic.
It surprises me but it's very interesting to know. Are you 100% it's the Facebook algorithms that are responsible for the ads being less efficient?
You're welcome! Like vurt said, posting in FB groups can't hurt and at least it's free.AndonHH wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 1:55 pmMy goal at this point with this first release will be to gather a small fan base of listeners, who will follow me on Bcamp, SC, FB, Insta and will share my posts. If someone pays for a track or two even better, but for now I care to find my people Thank you so much for this awesome repply! It got me thinking about so many new things I never knew about.
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 40 posts since 28 Aug, 2019
Here is the faster IDM-ish track (can this one be braindance?) Its not mixed yet, this is just the idea phase, I will mix and master it next.
https://seldt.bandcamp.com/track/glitching-fastidmedit
https://seldt.bandcamp.com/track/glitching-fastidmedit
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- Banned
- 2525 posts since 4 Jul, 2019
I've never really performed in public but more or less completely out of the blue, I performed in front of 30,000 people the other night and that was a blast - more exhilerating than nerve racking. But I was doing taichi with 3 other people and we were not the focus at all. But I was on stage, right at the front about half a metre from the edge max.AndonHH wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:22 amStage fright is no joke I know I have it. Wish I was at that gig.CrystalWizard wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:31 pmI did a duo gig with a lifelong friend who has the worst stagefright of anyone i know. Had him stay backstage with a guitar cord out to my setup. Played a kind of Fripp/Eno gig. People loved it. At the end i introduced him as my invisible guitarist he still wouldn’t come out.
Whereas speaking to a crowd of a couple of hundred people has had me thinking I would die from fright any second
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- KVRist
- Topic Starter
- 40 posts since 28 Aug, 2019
Damn, sounds like a trip for sure! Doesn't matter if you are on the main stage or on the side of the stage, you are controlling the sounds and people are hearing it, live that thought makes me sweat for real dudes!fairlyclose wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:11 amI've never really performed in public but more or less completely out of the blue, I performed in front of 30,000 people the other night and that was a blast - more exhilerating than nerve racking. But I was doing taichi with 3 other people and we were not the focus at all. But I was on stage, right at the front about half a metre from the edge max.AndonHH wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:22 amStage fright is no joke I know I have it. Wish I was at that gig.CrystalWizard wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:31 pmI did a duo gig with a lifelong friend who has the worst stagefright of anyone i know. Had him stay backstage with a guitar cord out to my setup. Played a kind of Fripp/Eno gig. People loved it. At the end i introduced him as my invisible guitarist he still wouldn’t come out.
Whereas speaking to a crowd of a couple of hundred people has had me thinking I would die from fright any second
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- Banned
- 2525 posts since 4 Jul, 2019
sure was a trip - it was for a big EDM festival, and the headline act - a guy called Flume - wanted some people doing Tai Chi at one stage, so we were on stage with Flume. Anyway, it was such a professional setup backstage - lots of people very calmly putting on quite an elaborate show - that I think we just picked up on that. I can really see how people love performing at something like that tho - whereas before actually having that experience I would never have thought I could handle it, let alone enjoy it!AndonHH wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 8:36 pmDamn, sounds like a trip for sure! Doesn't matter if you are on the main stage or on the side of the stage, you are controlling the sounds and people are hearing it, live that thought makes me sweat for real dudes!fairlyclose wrote: ↑Thu Oct 03, 2019 10:11 amI've never really performed in public but more or less completely out of the blue, I performed in front of 30,000 people the other night and that was a blast - more exhilerating than nerve racking. But I was doing taichi with 3 other people and we were not the focus at all. But I was on stage, right at the front about half a metre from the edge max.AndonHH wrote: ↑Mon Sep 30, 2019 12:22 amStage fright is no joke I know I have it. Wish I was at that gig.CrystalWizard wrote: ↑Sun Sep 29, 2019 11:31 pmI did a duo gig with a lifelong friend who has the worst stagefright of anyone i know. Had him stay backstage with a guitar cord out to my setup. Played a kind of Fripp/Eno gig. People loved it. At the end i introduced him as my invisible guitarist he still wouldn’t come out.
Whereas speaking to a crowd of a couple of hundred people has had me thinking I would die from fright any second