over headphones for live gig monitoring-naff or ok?
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 503 posts since 19 Apr, 2009
I cannot use IEM's as I cannot get past the vocal sounding like it's in a tunnel. And no I cannot afford the +$1000 units!
So I was thinking about the smaller form factor over ear cans for on-stage monitoring. I do a solo show keys/bass vocal and tracks. And sometimes I just cannot get away with using the F.O.H. doing double duty as a monitor as well. Quiet gigs are ok, but louder pub and club gigs I start to get all sorts of feedback issues.
So what is the consensus - do over ears (even if small) look naff (or dumb and detract from the visual), they'd be be okay, or neither of these as long as it gets the job done?
Thanks - JUST in case anyone responds.....
So I was thinking about the smaller form factor over ear cans for on-stage monitoring. I do a solo show keys/bass vocal and tracks. And sometimes I just cannot get away with using the F.O.H. doing double duty as a monitor as well. Quiet gigs are ok, but louder pub and club gigs I start to get all sorts of feedback issues.
So what is the consensus - do over ears (even if small) look naff (or dumb and detract from the visual), they'd be be okay, or neither of these as long as it gets the job done?
Thanks - JUST in case anyone responds.....
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- KVRian
- 992 posts since 27 Apr, 2005
wedges not an option? I wouldn't wear cans on stage, but that might just be me. I had been forced on a couple occasions in my time to just rely on what I could hear from the FOH speakers, and those shows were always followed by people telling me my singing was especially horrible that evening. Wedges would be what I would do.
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- KVRian
- Topic Starter
- 503 posts since 19 Apr, 2009
thanks, yeah I thought of a wedge - $'s are a bit tight and I'm trying to go low-ball for the moment. Unfortunately my experience with the cheaper end of town for wedges has been non too favourable all sorts of level, clarity and feedback issues. It's an extra speaker to carry too.
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- KVRian
- 992 posts since 27 Apr, 2005
I feel your pain, although the feedback can usually be dealt with by mic/monitor placement,Eq, or a feedback eliminator box (never used one myself tho). The most important thing is the sound heard by your audience, the second most important thing is your visual presentation, the least important thing is the sound quality that you hear, as long as you can accurately tell the notes you are playing/singing. So you have the choice of looking naff, or dealing with either the IEM’s/wedges you can afford. You know that wearing cans on stage wont look right, or you wouldn't have posted the topic, lol. Only thing that might work is making the headgear part of your stage persona, a/la dedmouse, although DJs can get away with wearing headphones anyway. Just my thoughts.
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an-electric-heart an-electric-heart https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=182734
- KVRAF
- 2505 posts since 13 Jun, 2008 from Napier,New Zealand
This is me, I wear headphones, I've had too many experiences where I'm just chucked on with not enough of a soundcheck and bad monitoring has caused me to play badly, so I just wear headphones, I practice with them too, and I don't mind the look. Roger Waters wore headphones for monitoring too.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVZR6UdD2LM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uVZR6UdD2LM
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- KVRAF
- 2565 posts since 2 Jul, 2010
It's really about the message you want to send.
You often see drummers wearing chunky over-ear cans that look like ear defenders; and that's cool because it has an association with loudness.
You expect to see a DJ using headphones, especially on one-ear only, so a turntablist or electronics noodler might give a good impression using DJ cans as it sells the idea that they are doing something complex and not just miming to a backing track.
It's not a great look on a lead singer though, as it's putting something between them and the audience. It breaks the illusion that they are sharing a sonic space with you.
You often see drummers wearing chunky over-ear cans that look like ear defenders; and that's cool because it has an association with loudness.
You expect to see a DJ using headphones, especially on one-ear only, so a turntablist or electronics noodler might give a good impression using DJ cans as it sells the idea that they are doing something complex and not just miming to a backing track.
It's not a great look on a lead singer though, as it's putting something between them and the audience. It breaks the illusion that they are sharing a sonic space with you.
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Mister Natural Mister Natural https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=164174
- KVRAF
- 2834 posts since 28 Oct, 2007 from michigan
As everybody(else on the planet) uses IEMs, I'd recco you try them again based on a tight budget.
fwiw - I've had really good experience with whatever model of Shure in-ears I've used(i.e.could afford)
best of luck
fwiw - I've had really good experience with whatever model of Shure in-ears I've used(i.e.could afford)
best of luck
expert only on what it feels like to be me
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