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Well actually a decent room verb, truly vintage delay or Reel ADT real alternative would be great too.

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A good 64 bit spring reverb :D

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chris.r wrote:Well actually a decent room verb, truly vintage delay or Reel ADT real alternative would be great too.
i don't know how anyone can be at a lack of reverbs nowadays (try using two free ones in combo, and mixing the send levels to add spacial discretisation). anyway, scuse me for touting my own plugs, but it's not like the rest of the world is going to let you know - give explodelay a whirl. the algorithm wasn't exactly designed "vintage emulation" but it does things i can't see how people wouldn't appreciate, and can sound close enough to hardware delays for me (or, like the good stuff they do, except moreso).

when i release a plugin, it's guaranteed that there isn't an existing similar process. that's why i release them :) i realise i'm nobody's friend by speaking so vehemently against the crass commercialisation of this industry, but do you realise i'm everybody's friend by releasing shit that actually does something new. funny old world.
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.

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xoxos wrote:i don't know how anyone can be at a lack of reverbs nowadays (try using two free ones in combo, and mixing the send levels to add spacial discretisation). anyway, scuse me for touting my own plugs, but it's not like the rest of the world is going to let you know - give explodelay a whirl. the algorithm wasn't exactly designed "vintage emulation" but it does things i can't see how people wouldn't appreciate, and can sound close enough to hardware delays for me (or, like the good stuff they do, except moreso).

when i release a plugin, it's guaranteed that there isn't an existing similar process. that's why i release them :) i realise i'm nobody's friend by speaking so vehemently against the crass commercialisation of this industry, but do you realise i'm everybody's friend by releasing shit that actually does something new. funny old world.
hi mr.x :D I appreciate your word on reverb

I'm quite sure that there will always be a selected goup of humans at a permanent lack of reverbs lol

in my post I was thinking more of some tool to create discrete small ambience from say mono dry signal, kind of short delay stereo trick in simple practical tool, but you know... better :hyper: and that it will instantly blow me up with its sound 8)

will check the explodelay btw :tu:

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I realized most people would probably not need this sort of thing but what I have been missing is a a good MIDI program change plugin. Something with these features:

Instrument selection box with +- buttons
bank selection box with +- buttons
program selection box with +- buttons
MIDI learn for the +- buttons
MIDI channel selector (1-16 & all)
MIDI panic button
Transpose +-48notes
Saving and loading of banks in some simple format that could be opened with a text editor
Folder structure for banks similar to U-he plugins (eg. loads all banks in folder when you load the plugin in your DAW).
Simple text area for keeping notes... actually, make it two: one for the bank and one for the synth patch.
Tagging of patch types (bass, lead, pad etc..) with the user being able to add or remove categories
Possibility to select patches with certain tags (I just like playing with the pads that this bank has)
Mouse wheel support for everything
Automation support
8-16 buttons to save favorites per bank (I think it would be very useful when playing live but also when composing music.)

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chris.r wrote:kind of short delay stereo trick in simple practical tool, but you know... better :hyper: and that it will instantly blow me up with its sound 8)
that's the whole thing about this rotten business :hihi:

it's like music in general, especially those of us who were alive before the era of computer music developed this feeling of excitement as the public heard more synthesis. nowadays we've all heard enough bloody music but we're too timid to admit that our culture needs a change so we keep pumping ourselves full of garbage trying not to notice that we've grown or anything.

the last decade or two of audio dsp has been about, as you say, tricks, neat ones, that wow us with acoustic simulations in a few dozen dsp commands (eg. feasible cpu overhead). as time goes on, even the buttwipe in the back of the short bus learns that cepstral processing is simplistic to code (when i found out how easy it was i was so disgusted i refused to do anything with it. for some reason, perry cook's explanation in his nice book didn't gel, fancy that).

this is why i advocate for democratisation of the medium, because if a person knows they are using this type of method or that type of method, they know they get the results from it, there's no mystery or allure, only application. all the mystery and allure has left us feeling like gratification is as endless as our desire (or our need for our culture to ultimately stop shafting itself). we still play the game with each other, but we all know the game is up.

like explodelay is a totally novel process, but we've heard enough goofy sounds that novelty isn't relevant any more. it's kind of like semi-pricey babysitting.
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.

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PTV wrote:A good 64 bit spring reverb :D
brainfart (after coding explodelay)

spring reverbs are (to the full extent of my awareness and practice) just kind of a bugger to code, because to achieve the "group delay contour" requires brutal allpass cascades. it's like, you can flub it a bit here and there, but ultimately it just takes brute cpu force for good results.

"but what about" using a fourier transform in the delay line (like explodelay) - basically, when you change the phase of a bin, the "effect" of this is perceived as a slight detuning, or a temporal decorrelation if the window length is long (if you randomise phase with a long window, it sounds like thousands of echoes.. temporal decorrelation) -

my tiny brain thinking about this says, the spring reverb group delay contour has a relatively narrow band of "significant delay" (rising from low frequencies to a sort of cutoff, then higher frequencies don't have much delay) - say your "spring frequency "is 6kHz, in a fourier window, a 360 degree delay at 6kHz isn't a lot of time, not anywhere close to the ms required...

but i don't really care to think too deeply about things (that are easy to do). so as far as i know, given the reverb-smeary results of temporal decorrelation by phase modification, it's possible that it might sound like a really good spring emulation, with efficient computation, because "it really does delay!". i don't believe i've ever seen anyone mention using a fourier window in a delay for spring emulation. might be fun for someone to bench, if they're benching that sort of thing. then they can win first place and not mention that old shitbag f**ker who says the things in the place, like the last time. ever.
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.

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Something like NI Spektral Delay would be cool.

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U-he releasing Hivelette :hihi:

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A proper free 6 osc synth with multiple filters options. ..

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How about an audio arp (as opposed to a midi arp) that allows the user to select a segment of a waveform and move it in real-time and is able to initiate an arp effect of that segment and the segments that follow. This will work great on a multi-touch monitor. Use the finger to select the segment and another finger to select the width of the segment and another finger to select the arp effect.

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Since there was such a great response to my above post thought I would give this one more try.

My feeling is that Windows multi-touch has so much to offer so let me propose to the developers to make a full featured all in one VSTi that has the following features:

Windows multi-touch capable and multi-touch friendly
For real-time finger music making with midi output.
Midi controller with keys, x-y pads, slider/fader, knobs
Chord progression assistant or generator
Include midi arp and midi fx
Interactive generative music capability.
To be able to host VST midi fx
Vector so to be resize-able.

Did I miss anything?

Keep in mind that VST’s made on JUCE are automatically multi-touch.

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The response to my two above posts are so great I will have to think of adding
at least one more plugin idea for developers. Yea, they need my input. :o :lol:

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course a loop mod sampler in legato mode with an arpeggiator plugin isn't as much fun as postin on kvr :hihi:

my wish for DC 2016: scrap the compo and finally properly implement the official kvraudio "just ask xoxos already" already :)
you come and go, you come and go. amitabha neither a follower nor a leader be tagore "where roads are made i lose my way" where there is certainty, consideration is absent.

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