Selling VST2 after October 2018: Steinberg agreement
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One thing that they don't understand is that if the point is to get rid of VST2 altogether, that won't work. One word: piracy. 
Or UNDERGROUND I should say. There will always be that site that has all files there to download and that they can't touch, since its based on China, Russia or Brazil. 
Or UNDERGROUND I should say. There will always be that site that has all files there to download and that they can't touch, since its based on China, Russia or Brazil. -
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ok, I will calm down... 
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It does not happen very often that a company has so much power and uses it to it's worst. We need open standards. These VST2 deprecation regulations are a joke. I have not seen such a foolish licensing anywhere else ... seriously. ... A signed permission on >>paper<<! Like we are living in medieval times.
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How do you sign a contract? I signed this one using a mouse and PDF editor like all my other contracts.alsms wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:50 pm It does not happen very often that a company has so much power and uses it to it's worst. We need open standards. These VST2 deprecation regulations are a joke. I have not seen such a foolish licensing anywhere else ... seriously. ... A signed permission on >>paper<<! Like we are living in medieval times.
Dave Hoskins. http://www.quikquak.com
They should change their motto to "making people happy" 
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- 6 posts since 17 Jun, 2015
I've started to develop a plugin in august 2018.
I spent so much time & effort into it, and now, when I'm almost ready to release it (for free) I discover that since oct 18, we can't get VST2 license anymore... What a shame for new developpers who started developing plugins intended to be free but had not signed the license before this due date.
Some major hosts like Ableton don't even support VST3 plugins yet. Maybe they did that to make them react..
I found this very interesting post on this github issue, about the topic :
g i t h u b.com/obiwanjacobi/vst.net/issues/11#issuecomment-455867795
I don't know what to think about it, I don't have enough knowledge in this field.
What to do now ? Of course I contacted Cabbage's dev team to implement VST3 export but this may take a while before it happens, and a while before Ableton for example support VST3...
I feel do discouraged now.. Do you guys here have any tips/helping advices ?
Is there a petition to sign somewhere to make things move (at least to try) ?
Thanks in advance,
I spent so much time & effort into it, and now, when I'm almost ready to release it (for free) I discover that since oct 18, we can't get VST2 license anymore... What a shame for new developpers who started developing plugins intended to be free but had not signed the license before this due date.
Some major hosts like Ableton don't even support VST3 plugins yet. Maybe they did that to make them react..
I found this very interesting post on this github issue, about the topic :
g i t h u b.com/obiwanjacobi/vst.net/issues/11#issuecomment-455867795
I don't know what to think about it, I don't have enough knowledge in this field.
What to do now ? Of course I contacted Cabbage's dev team to implement VST3 export but this may take a while before it happens, and a while before Ableton for example support VST3...
I feel do discouraged now.. Do you guys here have any tips/helping advices ?
Is there a petition to sign somewhere to make things move (at least to try) ?
Thanks in advance,
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Huh, that's big news. Assuming all users upgrade immediately (which is of course not the case), that might cut the population in half of users who can't use VST3 but can use VST3.
And thinking about it, this is the most successful result to date of Steinberg's action.
And thinking about it, this is the most successful result to date of Steinberg's action.
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- 6 posts since 17 Jun, 2015
Yes, they will upgrade, but there is some other DAW (not the big ones) that don't support it yet
I read a lot of things yesterday about the topic and found out that VeSTige could be the solution here, I found a JUCE fork where VST2 creation is possible through VeSTige !
bugs.d ebia n.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=913915
And here it explained how VeSTige was made, with no view of the original code, just based on visible outputs, and some DMCA takedown against VeSTige were disputed !
G i t .iem/zmoelnig/VeSTige
Of course because of the GPL license of it, it would be only for free Vst, but I think there is hope here, at least from free Vst !
What do you guys think about it ?
(PS : sorry for the links, I'm not allowed to post clickable links to these sites at the moment)
I read a lot of things yesterday about the topic and found out that VeSTige could be the solution here, I found a JUCE fork where VST2 creation is possible through VeSTige !
bugs.d ebia n.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=913915
And here it explained how VeSTige was made, with no view of the original code, just based on visible outputs, and some DMCA takedown against VeSTige were disputed !
G i t .iem/zmoelnig/VeSTige
Of course because of the GPL license of it, it would be only for free Vst, but I think there is hope here, at least from free Vst !
What do you guys think about it ?
(PS : sorry for the links, I'm not allowed to post clickable links to these sites at the moment)
