I'm pretty sure they said Bazille will get the new browser and Ctrl A/B functionality later this year. I'm very new to Bazille but the only functionality I wish for would be the ability to assign modulation to effect parameters. You kinda get spoiled by Hive, RePro, and Zebra in allowing you to assign effect parameters in their respective mod matrices. Outside of that, I'm still unpacking it all. Every time I think I can't do something, I figure out some way to patch up the modules to do what I was hoping for. She's a very deep synthesizer.
Bazille 2
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 11511 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
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- KVRAF
- 4122 posts since 23 May, 2004 from Bad Vilbel, Germany
Funkybot's Evil Twin wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 8:34 pmEvery time I think I can't do something, I figure out some way to patch up the modules to do what I was hoping for.
I get the same from Zebra2.
- u-he
- 28062 posts since 8 Aug, 2002 from Berlin
You're right. That is only because Hive was neglected for a while longer, it somehow was left dangling in the void. So now Hive gets some TLC, and maybe next year (post Z3), we'll give Bazille a bit more than just the new browser and the cookbook. Browser and cookbook are realistic goals for later this year though.
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- KVRAF
- 6458 posts since 17 Dec, 2009
i just spent around 55 minutes with the manual exploring a *single* oscillator in Bazille, and after an hour am thoroughly impressed how much can a single oscillator do with just a single envelope generator. Splendid.
i'm pretty happy this trade came up, because for some reason Bazille went completely under my radar and i wasn't even planning to ever buy it, and now it's on a good path to become one of my favourite synth plugins.
Funny enough, I sold Serum when Hive was updated with wavetables, but Bazille seems like a more fitting replacement in terms of raw aggression.
Cypher2 which it replaced sounded great, but fxpansion synths somehow don't click with me and my way of working.
i'm pretty happy this trade came up, because for some reason Bazille went completely under my radar and i wasn't even planning to ever buy it, and now it's on a good path to become one of my favourite synth plugins.
Funny enough, I sold Serum when Hive was updated with wavetables, but Bazille seems like a more fitting replacement in terms of raw aggression.
Cypher2 which it replaced sounded great, but fxpansion synths somehow don't click with me and my way of working.
- KVRian
- 837 posts since 8 Mar, 2008 from Crestview, Florida
I'm so pumped for the Cookbook. And the sexy new browser will be wonderful tooUrs wrote: ↑Mon Mar 18, 2019 10:11 pmYou're right. That is only because Hive was neglected for a while longer, it somehow was left dangling in the void. So now Hive gets some TLC, and maybe next year (post Z3), we'll give Bazille a bit more than just the new browser and the cookbook. Browser and cookbook are realistic goals for later this year though.
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- KVRist
- 173 posts since 25 Jul, 2005 from Vancouver, Canada
I love Bazille, though I have always been confused as to the effects included.
The Delay and Phaser are adequate, but the Spring Reverb and Distortion I never use, I just cant find the purpose of them/right sound.
My opinion, is I would love a Bazille 2 with different effects (at least a better reverb)and maybe the EQ Section of Filterscape VA with its morphing capabilities??
oh man, that would be sweet
The Delay and Phaser are adequate, but the Spring Reverb and Distortion I never use, I just cant find the purpose of them/right sound.
My opinion, is I would love a Bazille 2 with different effects (at least a better reverb)and maybe the EQ Section of Filterscape VA with its morphing capabilities??
oh man, that would be sweet
But then a strange fear gripped me
and I just couldn't ask....
and I just couldn't ask....
- KVRian
- 837 posts since 8 Mar, 2008 from Crestview, Florida
Yes, I would love to have a modern reverb in Bazille. The spring reverb is cool and all, but there's a time and a place for that. I rarely use it, but that's just my personal preference.
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 11511 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
The effects thing I get as a Feature Request. U-he's got a great catalog of built-in effects spread across various synths, and sometimes you wish you could use the Diva Chorus in Bazille, or RePro delay in everything (I mean, built-in, not just ColourCopy), or the Bazille Spring Reverb in ACE, RePro-5's Velvet everywhere, etc.
So some ability to "mix and match" between a standard compliment of effects in U-he synths would be a welcome addition without hopefully changing the synths too much. Not just talking Bazille 2 or anything either. I can understand why that isn't a small request and may present a bunch of challenges from an interface and implementation perspective, but totally a situation I've found myself in with multiple synths across the U-he line.
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- KVRAF
- 2300 posts since 11 Jan, 2009 from Portland, OR, USA
modular synth + spring reverb is a very natural combo, imho, and I think the bazille spring verb sounds wonderful. The default state is mono (width = 0), which can sound strange, so I hope those folks here might have written off the verb as "not sounding right / good" at least messed around with it enough to try increasing Width up to the max Also turn up the diffusion to lessen the sometimes overbearing 'shproing' sound.
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Funkybot's Evil Twin Funkybot's Evil Twin https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=116627
- KVRAF
- 11511 posts since 16 Aug, 2006
I do have one teeny, tiny feature request for Bazille and ACE, but it's more of a workflow/ergonomics thing: I wish I could Ctrl+Click or Alt+Click to move a cable by the output. Right now, only inputs can be clicked and dragged to be moved.
Feel free not to wait for Bazille 2 for that.
Feel free not to wait for Bazille 2 for that.
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- KVRist
- 173 posts since 25 Jul, 2005 from Vancouver, Canada
<< sounds like some of you guys want him to turn Bazille into Diva lol.>>
Nope, Diva is great as it is, I enjoy it immensely, even just having 2 available effects in Diva is great for me!
<<I hope those folks here might have written off the verb as "not sounding right / good" at least messed around with it enough to try increasing Width up to the max>>
Yep, messed with the settings, even downloaded Twangstrom and played around with it and it is a No Go, for me. I am sure there is a market for that kind of reverb otherwise it would have never been made into its own separate plugin.
A part of me thinks that Bazille is a synth that doesnt know what it is itself, with those effects you would think it is meant for pure old-school substractive synthesis, but there is so much more than that, with FM and the Wave Fractal Resonance, the Maps used as Oscillators, it is pretty advanced stuff, yet the effects do not reflect that at all.
Just my 2 Cents. I still love it, and I use it a lot, but I have barely any use for the included effects, I mostly run it through MFM2 or Colour Copy for Delay/Reverb and Valhalla plugins for pure Reverb.
Nope, Diva is great as it is, I enjoy it immensely, even just having 2 available effects in Diva is great for me!
<<I hope those folks here might have written off the verb as "not sounding right / good" at least messed around with it enough to try increasing Width up to the max>>
Yep, messed with the settings, even downloaded Twangstrom and played around with it and it is a No Go, for me. I am sure there is a market for that kind of reverb otherwise it would have never been made into its own separate plugin.
A part of me thinks that Bazille is a synth that doesnt know what it is itself, with those effects you would think it is meant for pure old-school substractive synthesis, but there is so much more than that, with FM and the Wave Fractal Resonance, the Maps used as Oscillators, it is pretty advanced stuff, yet the effects do not reflect that at all.
Just my 2 Cents. I still love it, and I use it a lot, but I have barely any use for the included effects, I mostly run it through MFM2 or Colour Copy for Delay/Reverb and Valhalla plugins for pure Reverb.
But then a strange fear gripped me
and I just couldn't ask....
and I just couldn't ask....
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- KVRAF
- 6458 posts since 17 Dec, 2009
I usually avoid built in effects for various reasons (not sounding good isn't one of them) but i cannot agree with the statement that Bazille doesn't know what kind of synth it is
It was inspired by Roland System 100, which itself has a Spring Reverb.
It's a rough digital sounding synth with a vintage heart, and I love every bit of it.
In any case, it's super easy to "modern it up" with external effects so this to me is completely a non issue, although I really appreciate high quality FX being shipped with synths, these are always secondary to me.
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that said, i want that tube saturation plugin from bazille as a u-he standalone
It was inspired by Roland System 100, which itself has a Spring Reverb.
It's a rough digital sounding synth with a vintage heart, and I love every bit of it.
In any case, it's super easy to "modern it up" with external effects so this to me is completely a non issue, although I really appreciate high quality FX being shipped with synths, these are always secondary to me.
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that said, i want that tube saturation plugin from bazille as a u-he standalone