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Short question:
how to make an "Apache by The Shadows"-like guitar sound?

Long story and explanation:
A friend and me are trying to make a song as a surprise joke for the wedding of another friend... problem is he's the guitarrist, so we can't ask him anything.

We need to do all by VST and emulators, and in his little studio we have available Overloud TH3 and a RealGuitar guitar (can't recall which one, is an electric one).

The songs could sounds like some Tarantino soundtrack, and we need a guitar that sounds like that old guitars.... it comes to my mind "Apache" by The Shadows, .... i get that there's chorus, a tremolo, perhaps a flanger or a phaser... there's some preset in TH3 but they all lacks a bit of "grit" when you play very hard.

Could we get some help from you all? :)
Ensoniq SQ1, Korg Wavestation A/D

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Single coils and copious amounts of reverb. Acoustic rhythm guitar.
Is materialism devouring your musical output? :ud:

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...and lots of tremelo (or to be correct, vibrato)

im sure he used slap back delay too

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AnX wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:16 pm ...and lots of tremelo (or to be correct, vibrato)

im sure he used slap back delay too
think it was just the spring on the amp?
they'd have tripped over any pedals doing that walky thing.

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He used tape echo in the early days rather than reverb.

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Forgotten wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:47 pm He used tape echo in the early days rather than reverb.
cant hear apache in my head, not so familiar with the shadows to be honest. i do remember it's a pretty cool track but the video is a little "hmmmm..." :lol:

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vurt wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:18 pm
AnX wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:16 pm ...and lots of tremelo (or to be correct, vibrato)

im sure he used slap back delay too
think it was just the spring on the amp?
they'd have tripped over any pedals doing that walky thing.

nope, he def used delay units (various ones) saw it on a doc years ago

a quick google will tell you which ones, but mostly its very short tap

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AnX wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:52 pm
vurt wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:18 pm
AnX wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:16 pm ...and lots of tremelo (or to be correct, vibrato)

im sure he used slap back delay too
think it was just the spring on the amp?
they'd have tripped over any pedals doing that walky thing.

nope, he def used delay units (various ones) saw it on a doc years ago

a quick google will tell you which ones, but mostly its very short tap
tbh, it was just a shite joke about the walk :oops:

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yeah, it was shit :hihi:

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17pRIIYGGj8
And you guitar vst. Might be better asking Google,
Is materialism devouring your musical output? :ud:

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AnX wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2019 6:54 pm yeah, it was shit :hihi:
cant all be gold :hihi:

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Based on what I hear (and know):
  • Fender Stratocaster
  • Tape echo - a bit longer than a typical slap back
  • A darker sounding valve amp like a Vox AC30
  • Bridge pickup, but sounds like something is rolling off some tone - tone control doesn’t affect the bridge pickup in a Strat, so it’s probably his amp tone settings
  • Quite heavy strings - the lighter strings sound pretty full compared to most Strats
  • A combination of bends and slides are used
  • Lots of tremolo arm use

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Forgotten wrote: Fri Aug 30, 2019 7:30 pm Based on what I hear (and know):
  • Fender Stratocaster
  • Tape echo - a bit longer than a typical slap back
  • A darker sounding valve amp like a Vox AC30
  • Bridge pickup, but sounds like something is rolling off some tone - tone control doesn’t affect the bridge pickup in a Strat, so it’s probably his amp tone settings
  • Quite heavy strings - the lighter strings sound pretty full compared to most Strats
  • A combination of bends and slides are used
  • Lots of tremolo arm use
thats pretty much it (well googled :hihi:)

dont forget to play in diff positions, bridge/neck for variation

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AnX wrote:thats pretty much it (well googled :hihi:)
:lol:

The only thing I Googled was which pickup he used because I wasn’t sure, but I didn’t really find much.
AnX wrote:dont forget to play in diff positions, bridge/neck for variation
Yep, the tremolo picking sounds like it’s played much closer to the bridge than most of the rest of it.

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remember hes looking to do this on keys, is neck position available on reaguitar?
just making sure he gets the right info :ud:

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