AIR - Are You Abandonware Yet?

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dandezebra
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710 posts since 21 Dec, 2013 from USA

Post Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:00 pm

Anyone have any thoughts on this?

David
KVRist
333 posts since 5 Jan, 2003 from Brookings, OR

Re: AIR - Are You Abandonware Yet?

Post Fri Jul 27, 2018 7:15 pm

Well, I'm a newcomer to this stuff, just in the past year or so, and only because of the deep deals lately (bought everything AFAIK, in one particularly good one). But I've had some good email customer service over one or two install issues directly from AIR, and I keep seeing new deals and even new stuff that's not so deeply discounted.

So, even though there's only a couple of the apps that really grabbed me (Loom and Transfuser—those have been deeply interesting, and Loom's even been updated since), I'm feeling very positive. And Transfuser's really old, judging from the YT tuts I've found, but it still works great. I'm happy to ride 'em out into the sunset, but I don't see that yet.

low_low
KVRist
362 posts since 20 Jul, 2018

Re: AIR - Are You Abandonware Yet?

Post Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:44 pm

They're shipping their Hybrid 3 synth with Akai hardware, so somebody loves them.

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EvilDragon
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17062 posts since 7 Jan, 2009 from Croatia

Re: AIR - Are You Abandonware Yet?

Post Fri Jul 27, 2018 11:57 pm

That's more because InMusic owns both AIR and Akai, so...

starflakeprj
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831 posts since 28 Feb, 2015

Re: AIR - Are You Abandonware Yet?

Post Sat Jul 28, 2018 2:47 am

Definitely abondonware to me. They have promised to fix the GUI problems in Transfuser for years, and also promised updated GUI's for all their plugins for more than a year. Instead they are releasing Loom 2, history's worst update, and a new drum plugin nobody wants. They also have list prices that are hilarious, just like SONiVOX, but of course, they are both owned by InMusic.

AIR is dead to me, and if it wouldn't be due to the fact I kind of like M-Audio and AKAI, InMusic would have been dead to me as well. It's a mystery they haven't gone bankrupt yet.
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dellboy
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703 posts since 28 Mar, 2007

Re: AIR - Are You Abandonware Yet?

Post Sat Jul 28, 2018 4:56 am

The Air plugins are still included with a purchase of ProTools, so I would say no.

And so long as they still work with windows 10, whats the problem ?

And if Air ever did bring out new versions they would probably be at a price well out of my budget, so I am happy with my purchase.

0degree
KVRist
119 posts since 29 Jan, 2017

Re: AIR - Are You Abandonware Yet?

Post Sat Jul 28, 2018 5:13 am

I really hope it's not true - would love to see updates to existing plugins, especially creative fx suite. Come on Air - throw a bone! :)

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krabbencutter
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321 posts since 12 Jul, 2013

Re: AIR - Are You Abandonware Yet?

Post Thu Aug 02, 2018 1:19 am

dellboy wrote:The Air plugins are still included with a purchase of ProTools, so I would say no.

And so long as they still work with windows 10, whats the problem ?

And if Air ever did bring out new versions they would probably be at a price well out of my budget, so I am happy with my purchase.
They haven't seen any feature update since Pro Tools 8, so I guess AVID & AIR are only doing AAX life support to guarantee compatibility.

I bought the AIEP Select two years ago and wouldn't do it again :S Komplete Select would have definitely been the better choice and I have substituted most of the AIR stuff with other plugins by now.

Hybrid, Vacuum Pro & Xpand!2 are nice, if you got them for free/1$/bundled/magazine.
Loom is cool and interesting but V2 is not worth the money.
Velvet, Mini Grand & DB33 are nice, too, if you can get them for a fair price in the marketplace or bundled
But that's it imho. Strike, Structure and Transfuser didn't excite me enough to justify the amount of hard disk space they need. I tried to like Structure and Transfuser but they were also pretty buggy for me (Win10!) and the GUIs are just too small on a FHD Laptop Screen.

I'm fine with the current features of the plugins and would be perfectly happy if AIR added higher res GUIs and did some bugfixing :help:
I build stuff for REAKTOR, just in case anyone cares :party:

AKMusic
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13 posts since 24 Apr, 2012 from Minneapolis, MN (USA)

Re: AIR - Are You Abandonware Yet?

Post Fri Aug 17, 2018 8:48 am

krabbencutter wrote: Hybrid, Vacuum Pro & Xpand!2 are nice, if you got them for free/1$/bundled/magazine.
Loom is cool and interesting but V2 is not worth the money.
Hybrid 3 and Vacuum Pro are still on sale for $1 (one dollar!) at Plugin Boutique. Even at that price Hybrid 3 has limited use in my arsenal because it's so one dimensional sounding, but Vacuum Pro manages to weasel its way into some of my productions! Vacuum Pro has some GREAT low-end bass presets that grabbed my attention... I'm liking Vacuum Pro much more than Hybrid 3. With a name like Hybrid 3, you would have thought it was a versatile synth along the lines of Zebra or Omnisphere but it's not. It should've been called "Trance-Machine"... :D

Topcheese
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119 posts since 12 Nov, 2017

Re: AIR - Are You Abandonware Yet?

Post Tue Aug 21, 2018 10:45 am

AKMusic wrote:
krabbencutter wrote: With a name like Hybrid 3, you would have thought it was a versatile synth along the lines of Zebra or Omnisphere but it's not. It should've been called "Trance-Machine"... :D

That's subjective, and it really depends on what you need. I didn't know either one of those synths let you import midi, but Hybrid does that and much more.

It only seems like abandonware because they actually have some serious products. I'm sure there are issues with them, but we've seen one person complain about the gui.

I'm on Win 10 and I have no problems with Transfuser, or any other plugin from them. I'm not saying that they don't have some bugs, but I use them on a daily basis, and love them.

Yes, they could use some updates.

zzz00m
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1322 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Re: AIR - Are You Abandonware Yet?

Post Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:21 pm

Let's hope not. Could use some updates...
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Bug Music
KVRist
70 posts since 7 Dec, 2004

Re: AIR - Are You Abandonware Yet?

Post Wed Nov 07, 2018 8:46 pm

Hmmm...
Another couple of months now, that's not too encouraging. :(
Whatever happened to Simon ?

- Jay

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phreaque
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713 posts since 17 Jul, 2007 from Baghdad-Iq

Re: AIR - Are You Abandonware Yet?

Post Thu Nov 08, 2018 12:33 am

Better days for them will be apparently under the acquisition of inMusic. Better than being part of avid or digidesign.

Inmusic has major hardware and software brands such as:
Sonivox, Akai pro, m-audio, Marantz, mix meister, Alesis, Numark and others.
One of positive indicators is how the latest Akai products started to get highest-rated sales. Along with m-audio new products which totally redeemed the brand reputation after the disastrous production faults back in 2012 and earlier.
Phreaque Modi

zzz00m
KVRian
1322 posts since 17 Sep, 2016

Re: AIR - Are You Abandonware Yet?

Post Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:49 am

Yes it appears that inMusic has put the focus on hardware sales, and only support software development where it directly enhances hardware sales. The Akai and M-Audio product lines would be good examples of that, as well as various DJ related product lines.

It would be great to hear some news about future product plans for their legacy software instruments. The last "News/PR" announcement made on the inMusic home page was over 2 years ago. That is not at all encouraging. The last AIR or SONiVOX news was posted in 2015 on the inMusic page. https://www.inmusicbrands.com/news

SONiVOX did announce a couple of new Qubiq Audio powered instruments earlier this year, Stratum and Solina, but no mention of them appears on the inMusic page. https://www.qubiqaudio.com/
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dandezebra
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710 posts since 21 Dec, 2013 from USA

Re: AIR - Are You Abandonware Yet?

Post Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:53 am

I'm not optimistic due to the lack of responses here as well as numerous "promised" updates that have never materialized.

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