bluetooth headphones are bad
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 20 posts since 12 Mar, 2019
This was previously a post complaining about animoog’s slow speed. It was wrong. The real lesson is: Never use bluetooth to output sound when playing. There is an intolerable delay.
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John the Savage John the Savage https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=396119
- KVRian
- 824 posts since 28 Mar, 2017
Yep, and Apple has omitted the headphones jack on all their latest devices too... Useless, pedestrian crap.
Cheers!
Cheers!
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 20 posts since 12 Mar, 2019
Fortunately you can buy a nice little hub adapter that has USB-A and an audio jack and a few other things. Somehow bluetooth audio is fine for watching movies, but for playing software synthesizers it's unacceptable.
- KVRAF
- 8814 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
Yes, each time I want to play through my SB Roar, I have to switch off BT, as my iPad would find it and connect and does not priorizise the cable I attach as well...
But when I just want to listen to music or videos its very convenient, they even manage to keep the video and audio in sync...
But when I just want to listen to music or videos its very convenient, they even manage to keep the video and audio in sync...
- KVRAF
- 2474 posts since 8 Jun, 2010
- Roger Linn Design
On a related note, I have a couple of Apple HomePod speakers in my living room. When I use them wirelessly for the output of my mac while playing LinnStrument, the latency is about 2 seconds. I understand the need to delay the audio stream in order to avoid clicks and pops due to network clogging, but it would be nice to also have a "Musician Mode", that lowers the latency with the understanding that your home network might not work well with it. Apple does tend to feel that it knows better.
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John the Savage John the Savage https://www.kvraudio.com/forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=396119
- KVRian
- 824 posts since 28 Mar, 2017
Ha, ya, more flimsy, disposable peripherals is just what the world needs. But hey, thanks be to f_ck that my iPad is a half-millimeter thinner and a fraction of an ounce lighter. You can always go buy a case for it, since it's so fragile and impossible to hold on to, and a pocket full of dongles to lose. We'll gain access to those basic functionalities one way or another, come hell or high water, right (wink)? Ahem!
Cheers!
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- KVRer
- Topic Starter
- 20 posts since 12 Mar, 2019
But is there a better method for wireless audio? It's not good for music performance but pretty good for other purposes.
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- KVRist
- 145 posts since 9 Sep, 2018
I'd say it's convenient but I have experienced drop-offs, problems with sharing a Bluetooth device... I don't know, I think it can be better.
- KVRAF
- 8814 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
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- KVRAF
- 1540 posts since 2 Apr, 2015
- KVRAF
- 8814 posts since 6 Jan, 2017 from Outer Space
Isn‘t aptx just the codec? That does not tell much about latency and a combination of two devices has to garantie it... It seams though, that the latency is somehow communicated or you could not sync video and audio...
I never read a test where latency is even mentioned. The big market just does not care...
I never read a test where latency is even mentioned. The big market just does not care...
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- KVRAF
- 1540 posts since 2 Apr, 2015
AptX is a bluetooth streaming codec, so as well as encoding/decoding it also deals with data transfer, combined with Bluetooth 4.2/5 which has larger packets so has less packet overhead this enables lower latency than 4.0 and 4.1.
Even bluetooth 4.1 can run at under 20ms, just because implementations add latency doesn't mean it is the underlying technology that is at fault.
Even bluetooth 4.1 can run at under 20ms, just because implementations add latency doesn't mean it is the underlying technology that is at fault.
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