A new song is up. The linnstrument solo is at about the 2:07 mark:
https://youtu.be/o7m8Nc-frzA
Request for videos for the next "LinnStrumentalists" compilation
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- KVRist
- 35 posts since 5 Nov, 2015
Here is another short performance. I'm not a virtuoso. My main goal is to hook any synth to this expressive controller and create an organic connection between Linnstrument and the synth, no matter how cheap the synth is.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70cqtwl7dI0
I really don't want to hook this beauty (LI) to a damn computer. A computer requires updates every two weeks these days. Also it breaks half of the working software all the time. That is not what Roger wants us to do or does he. Most of his demo videos use computer as sound source. I know synths with mod matrix are not ready for level of expression which LI offers. But somebody must break the barrier. I'm almost there..: hooking up $99 craft synth to LinnStrument (more vids coming soon) and using all of it's 8 mod slots to get an organic expressiveness from this wave-folding blue plastic beauty.
PS: There is one thing that I asked Roger to consider in the new update to FW a few months back: Customized Velocity and/or aftertouch curve. I know there are 3 choices but I need harder exp/log/whatever see below. Roger answered to this that we can set the curves (exponential/logarithmic) in our synths. Well,... so far only Blofeld allows me to customize the curve of modulation. My guess is that only 20% of synths do that.
Why harder exponential, logarithmic etc ? I need a slow attack (String emulation) for low velocity and then (pluck emulation) when I hit harder than 90. With linear attack on most of the ADSR i just cannot do that. Custom curves would bring the expressiveness of this instrument to another level. So why not do that if LI is THE manifestation of expression? Other than that LI is my primary controller and wouldn't change it. The curve would go something like this:
in - out
20->20
40->30
60->40
80->50
100->90
120->120
I'm exercising the idea to program one of the retrokits https://www.retrokits.com/shop/rk002/ midi cables to do this for me. But amount of messages that LI sends will clog the tinny CPU in this gizmo-MIDI-cable thing. I've experienced this with MicroMonsta, Blofeld and even NDLR and or MIDI-looper. The amount of messages from LI clogs the MIDI buffers of these and they start to behave crazily, losing note-offs, or jumpy aftertouch, mod wheel reaction.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=70cqtwl7dI0
I really don't want to hook this beauty (LI) to a damn computer. A computer requires updates every two weeks these days. Also it breaks half of the working software all the time. That is not what Roger wants us to do or does he. Most of his demo videos use computer as sound source. I know synths with mod matrix are not ready for level of expression which LI offers. But somebody must break the barrier. I'm almost there..: hooking up $99 craft synth to LinnStrument (more vids coming soon) and using all of it's 8 mod slots to get an organic expressiveness from this wave-folding blue plastic beauty.
PS: There is one thing that I asked Roger to consider in the new update to FW a few months back: Customized Velocity and/or aftertouch curve. I know there are 3 choices but I need harder exp/log/whatever see below. Roger answered to this that we can set the curves (exponential/logarithmic) in our synths. Well,... so far only Blofeld allows me to customize the curve of modulation. My guess is that only 20% of synths do that.
Why harder exponential, logarithmic etc ? I need a slow attack (String emulation) for low velocity and then (pluck emulation) when I hit harder than 90. With linear attack on most of the ADSR i just cannot do that. Custom curves would bring the expressiveness of this instrument to another level. So why not do that if LI is THE manifestation of expression? Other than that LI is my primary controller and wouldn't change it. The curve would go something like this:
in - out
20->20
40->30
60->40
80->50
100->90
120->120
I'm exercising the idea to program one of the retrokits https://www.retrokits.com/shop/rk002/ midi cables to do this for me. But amount of messages that LI sends will clog the tinny CPU in this gizmo-MIDI-cable thing. I've experienced this with MicroMonsta, Blofeld and even NDLR and or MIDI-looper. The amount of messages from LI clogs the MIDI buffers of these and they start to behave crazily, losing note-offs, or jumpy aftertouch, mod wheel reaction.
FunkTree https://www.youtube.com/c/FunkTree
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2491 posts since 8 Jun, 2010
- Roger Linn Design
Hi Funktree,
Thank you for the video. I've tagged it on my LinnStrument Owner Videos Youtube playlist.
Regarding synths, I don't prefer that people use software synths. I merely prefer software synths for my own use because they offer so much more flexibility and MPE compatibility. But you are welcome to use whatever you prefer.
Regarding your request for custom different velocity curves in LinnStrument, this is exactly what the Low/Medium/High Sensitivity settings do, roughly equivalent to the 2D graphic velocity curves on synths such as Roli's Equator. Stately simply, "Low" pulls the response line upward into a curve, "Medium" keeps it a straight line, and "Low" plus the response line downward into an opposite curve.
Plus, LinnStrument permits you to set the Low and High velocity limits, which scales all values in-between, and it also permits the sensor output to be scaled with the Prescale setting. Have you tried adjusting these other settings? They might give you what you need.
The other issue is that your stated desire for this feature is to satisfy your personal preference for using velocity to modulate envelope attack. But that's a method that was more necessary with traditional MIDI keyboards that don't have LinnStrument's continuous pressure control. Have you tried performing the pressure envelope to control both attack and continuous note loudness, instead of using velocity to simulate pressure as with a MIDI keyboard? You might find that it works better for you.
At the least, I think it would benefit you to find a synth with the velocity curve you desire, then try out your idea to see if it actually does what you think it will. You may learn that it doesn't, and if that's the case then I don't think it is reasonable to ask for a feature that you may be guessing with fill your need.
Thank you for the video. I've tagged it on my LinnStrument Owner Videos Youtube playlist.
Regarding synths, I don't prefer that people use software synths. I merely prefer software synths for my own use because they offer so much more flexibility and MPE compatibility. But you are welcome to use whatever you prefer.
Regarding your request for custom different velocity curves in LinnStrument, this is exactly what the Low/Medium/High Sensitivity settings do, roughly equivalent to the 2D graphic velocity curves on synths such as Roli's Equator. Stately simply, "Low" pulls the response line upward into a curve, "Medium" keeps it a straight line, and "Low" plus the response line downward into an opposite curve.
Plus, LinnStrument permits you to set the Low and High velocity limits, which scales all values in-between, and it also permits the sensor output to be scaled with the Prescale setting. Have you tried adjusting these other settings? They might give you what you need.
The other issue is that your stated desire for this feature is to satisfy your personal preference for using velocity to modulate envelope attack. But that's a method that was more necessary with traditional MIDI keyboards that don't have LinnStrument's continuous pressure control. Have you tried performing the pressure envelope to control both attack and continuous note loudness, instead of using velocity to simulate pressure as with a MIDI keyboard? You might find that it works better for you.
At the least, I think it would benefit you to find a synth with the velocity curve you desire, then try out your idea to see if it actually does what you think it will. You may learn that it doesn't, and if that's the case then I don't think it is reasonable to ask for a feature that you may be guessing with fill your need.
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- KVRist
- 99 posts since 14 Mar, 2018
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- KVRist
- 281 posts since 9 Sep, 2019 from Denmark
Hey guys,
I did this clip today. I am soloing a bit on top of the beginning of a famous track, so for that reason it is on Vimeo, not Youtube. (Yes, I am a big fan of the concept of copyright, but to me, this will hardly be hurting anyone.)
I am playing the Moog Model D app on my iPhone, while Garageband is recording it and playing the backing track. The Model D runs though an amp model in Garageband and gets some reverb and delay there as well. Pretty well handled by an old iPhone SE.
https://vimeo.com/375737583
I did this clip today. I am soloing a bit on top of the beginning of a famous track, so for that reason it is on Vimeo, not Youtube. (Yes, I am a big fan of the concept of copyright, but to me, this will hardly be hurting anyone.)
I am playing the Moog Model D app on my iPhone, while Garageband is recording it and playing the backing track. The Model D runs though an amp model in Garageband and gets some reverb and delay there as well. Pretty well handled by an old iPhone SE.
https://vimeo.com/375737583
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- KVRist
- 281 posts since 9 Sep, 2019 from Denmark
Oh, and I can totally recommend getting Model D. It is four voice polyphonic. You might need a magnifying glass, if you use it on an iPhone, but it is sounds just as you would expect. (I also got the Model 15, and though it does sound good, it is very clumsy to use. I do love modular synthesis, but after using Bitwigs The Grid, I am totally spoilt in regard to modular user-friendliness. So my Model 15 is probably not going to see a lot of use, but Model D absolutely will.)
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- KVRist
- 281 posts since 9 Sep, 2019 from Denmark
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- KVRist
- 35 posts since 5 Nov, 2015
Happy thanksgiving Roger and All beautiful people on this forum!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLrwjrOTtDY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLrwjrOTtDY
FunkTree https://www.youtube.com/c/FunkTree
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- KVRist
- 180 posts since 16 Jul, 2018
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- KVRist
- 180 posts since 16 Jul, 2018
Here's something a bit different. This video shows the Linnstrument being used in combination with the Leap Motion controller and Geco software to "Air Bow" and "Air Pluck" the Swam Violin and Swam Cello respectively. The bowing starts about 30 or 40 seconds in.
https://youtu.be/1cHAo7arF3k
https://youtu.be/1cHAo7arF3k
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- KVRist
- 281 posts since 9 Sep, 2019 from Denmark
That bowed tremolo sounds really good. 
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- KVRist
- 386 posts since 10 Apr, 2015 from Gaithersburg, Maryland USA
Excellent videos, Steve! I had a leap motion before I had LinnStrument and could not get the hang of it for bowing.
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- KVRist
- 386 posts since 10 Apr, 2015 from Gaithersburg, Maryland USA
"Afiordable" is a free form improvisation (drums, piano, and LinnStrument (Cypher 2)) inspired by a boat trip to New Zealand through Milford Sound. Although it may sound as if the boat capsized, it was a smooth ride with some amazing views.
At the moment, Cypher is my favorite soft synth to use with LinnStrument. I find it very easy to dial in customized pressure and other controls in conjunctions with LinnStrument's settings. I used a standard controller for the piano (Pianoteq) and Zendrum for the drums (MODO Drums).
http://jeremycubert.bandcamp.com/track/afiordable
At the moment, Cypher is my favorite soft synth to use with LinnStrument. I find it very easy to dial in customized pressure and other controls in conjunctions with LinnStrument's settings. I used a standard controller for the piano (Pianoteq) and Zendrum for the drums (MODO Drums).
http://jeremycubert.bandcamp.com/track/afiordable
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- KVRist
- 180 posts since 16 Jul, 2018
Thanks! That was pretty much the point of the video...about 7 or 8 seconds wrapped in 2 minutes!That bowed tremolo sounds really good.
Thanks Jeremy. I still don't really feel I have the hang of it although I was better at it a year or so ago when I practiced it for a while. Even then I found it a bit glitchy used this way. I'm wondering if the Genki Midi ring would be a better option, although I would be concerned about the latency with bluetooth. I do think done correctly, the bowing adds something.Excellent videos, Steve! I had a leap motion before I had LinnStrument and could not get the hang of it for bowing
Awesome as usual Jeremy! And man, you are really a master of that zendrum (among other things)."Afiordable" is a free form improvisation (drums, piano, and LinnStrument (Cypher 2)) inspired by a boat trip to New Zealand through Milford Sound. Although it may sound as if the boat capsized, it was a smooth ride with some amazing views.
