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- KVRAF
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- 2334 posts since 5 Oct, 2003
In my synth, I have a pulldown list of 8 options and I want to select them using some sort of control on the fly while I'm playing. I could automate it but I want to be able to do this during a live performance. I tried a lot of modulators but just couldn't find one that would work. Its like I need a "jump to" button where I can assign a specific percentage so I can quickly jump to the selection I want.
Thanks for help on this.
Greg K.
Thanks for help on this.
Greg K.
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- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
Assuming this is a VST - can't you just assign Macro modulator to that parameter? Then turning the Macro knob (ideally mapped to some MIDI controller's knob, if you have one) it would go through the 8 states.
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- KVRAF
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- 2334 posts since 5 Oct, 2003
Thanks for the idea. Unless I'm misunderstanding, I can't really jump to a parameter using a Macro knob cause I have to scroll through the choices in order. with the synth running live, I have to be able to choose a number in the list and go directly to it without passing through the other choices.
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Ok, so here's what I came up with - not very pretty, but works.killmaster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:41 pmI have to be able to choose a number in the list and go directly to it without passing through the other choices.
Basically it's a FX Grid patch with an instrument nested within it (Polysynth in this case). FX Grid has 6 instances of Toggle module. Each of those Toggle modules - when enabled - passes through a Static value 1 through 6. Toggles are mapped to Remotes of the FX Grid. Then by logic comparisons I'm picking up the highest number from all the Remotes being pressed, turning that number into fraction (so if the static value is 5, the fraction is 5/6 because there's 6 possibilities) and then use that value as a Modulator Out. Then it's just a matter of mapping that modulation to nested instrument's list - in this case it's waveshaper type - you won't see it changing, but there will be blue dots visible to show it's modulated and you'll obviously hear the sound changing.
The issue is I can't figure out how to disable other buttons when one is pressed. But it still works quite well, especially on a touch-screen - you just have to make sure that the one option you want is the highest button pressed, for instance if you are on #6 but want to switch to #3 (which is already ON), then make sure #4 and #5 are disabled and when the time comes disable #6.
Perhaps someone more skilled can take that further.
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- KVRAF
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- 2334 posts since 5 Oct, 2003
Wow, thanks for this! I haven't used the Grid yet so this will be a good intro. And I think its pretty! Much appreciated. I'll post back once I had a chance to try it out tomorrow...antic604 wrote: ↑Sat Jan 25, 2020 12:58 amOk, so here's what I came up with - not very pretty, but works.killmaster wrote: ↑Fri Jan 24, 2020 10:41 pmI have to be able to choose a number in the list and go directly to it without passing through the other choices.
Basically it's a FX Grid patch with an instrument nested within it (Polysynth in this case). FX Grid has 6 instances of Toggle module. Each of those Toggle modules - when enabled - passes through a Static value 1 through 6. Toggles are mapped to Remotes of the FX Grid. Then by logic comparisons I'm picking up the highest number from all the Remotes being pressed, turning that number into fraction (so if the static value is 5, the fraction is 5/6 because there's 6 possibilities) and then use that value as a Modulator Out. Then it's just a matter of mapping that modulation to nested instrument's list - in this case it's waveshaper type - you won't see it changing, but there will be blue dots visible to show it's modulated and you'll obviously hear the sound changing.
The issue is I can't figure out how to disable other buttons when one is pressed. But it still works quite well, especially on a touch-screen - you just have to make sure that the one option you want is the highest button pressed, for instance if you are on #6 but want to switch to #3 (which is already ON), then make sure #4 and #5 are disabled and when the time comes disable #6.
Perhaps someone more skilled can take that further.
Selector.zip
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2334 posts since 5 Oct, 2003
I just now had a chance to test this out and it works as I hoped, except that I need 2 more increments which I'm going to add. Thanks again for this!! Only tiny thing that could be improved is if the toggle is a switch instead. But I can make this work no problem...
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- KVRAF
- 4491 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest
hi, it isn't just a phase modulated (free run, hold) parseq8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0f2FqerquQ
u can even set the changing speed with smoothness etc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0f2FqerquQ
u can even set the changing speed with smoothness etc.
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat
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- KVRAF
- Topic Starter
- 2334 posts since 5 Oct, 2003
This is a great idea but it doesn't work for what I need cause you still have sequentially step through the values. It would work if I could click on a step without stepping through the other steps to get there. I wish I could use this device and just activate whatever step I need without having to scroll through them. If you know what I mean.xbitz wrote: ↑Sun Jan 26, 2020 8:52 pm hi, it isn't just a phase modulated (free run, hold) parseq8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0f2FqerquQ
u can even set the changing speed with smoothness etc.
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- KVRAF
- 4491 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest
^^^ ahamm and what about instrument/fx selector and layer index as dropdown in the performance page
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14va6cjtyjc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gDKEhTs1u0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14va6cjtyjc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gDKEhTs1u0
"Where we're workarounding, we don't NEED features." - powermat
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- 11467 posts since 4 Jan, 2017 from Warsaw, Poland
Wow, I wasn't aware this exists (I mean the drop-down in remote page)!
Thanks for the heads up
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- KVRAF
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- 2334 posts since 5 Oct, 2003
yeh, this is cool to be aware of. But if I understand, I'd have to load an instance of my plugin for each parameter change I want. Since I'm using this live to change parameters, there are a lot of changes I'll make to other parameters and I'll be changing presets on the fly. So what I really need is a bank of switches that set a parameter to an absolute value. The buttons would work if they set the parameter to a specific value instead of adding an amount to the current value of that parameter. Hope I'm explaining ok... Thanks for this though. Good to see how it is used in any case!xbitz wrote: ↑Mon Jan 27, 2020 6:55 am ^^^ ahamm and what about instrument/fx selector and layer index as dropdown in the performance page
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14va6cjtyjc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gDKEhTs1u0
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- KVRAF
- 4491 posts since 3 Oct, 2013 from Budapest
^^^ and can't u use clips that contain only automation (initial absolute values) and mapping their launch to some MIDI controls ?
so just simple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xks9ujwTR3E
all the controls and their macros would jump to their initial state
so just simple
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xks9ujwTR3E
all the controls and their macros would jump to their initial state
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- KVRAF
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- 2334 posts since 5 Oct, 2003