Bitwig

xx JPRacer xx · Post by **xx JPRacer xx** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 4:54 pm

bolba wrote:Oh lol
So you have no examples of ghost clips usage, but need them. Cool.

Your Studio One case is easily done with multi editing.
Go learn some Bitwig first.

We already provided examples where ghost clips could be useful. If you don't agree or don't see the usefulness of them then don't use them, your choice, but to some people (myself included) it's a very useful feature to have.

mosska · Post by **mosska** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 7:45 pm

ghost clips are cool...FL studio had it like 15 years ago...

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:01 pm

bolba wrote:Oh lol
So you have no examples of ghost clips usage, but need them. Cool.

Your Studio One case is easily done with multi editing.
Go learn some Bitwig first.

I gave many examples in this topic & others similar to it.
But for some reason you need a video of some high-profile artist.

bolba · Post by **bolba** » Tue Jun 05, 2018 9:08 pm

You gave only one example from Studio One. It can be done via multi editing.

FLStudio ghost clips sucks.

Any other (proper) examples?

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Wed Jun 06, 2018 3:46 am

bolba wrote:You gave only one example from Studio One. It can be done via multi editing.

FLStudio ghost clips sucks.

Any other (proper) examples?

As I said - yes, end of 1st page for example: viewtopic.php?f=259&t=505173#p7084226

And BTW, you seem to not understand what 'example' is? It's a simplified demonstration of a concept on a small scale, usually stripped out off of additional elements that may make it more difficult to understand the core idea or issue. As such, it may look like the problem can be easily solved in other way, but use your imagination - instead of 3 clips next to each other imagine 30, placed in-between multiple other groups of ghosted clips, spread across 6 minutes of music and 40 tracks.

Obicere · Post by **Obicere** » Wed Jun 06, 2018 6:31 am

Just out of interest, Reaper can also 'pool' MIDI clips.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Wed Jun 06, 2018 8:01 am

Obicere wrote:Just out of interest, Reaper can also 'pool' MIDI clips.

Yeah, surprisingly most "traditional" linear DAWs have had this for years (if not decades) and it's actually the DAWs that are geared towards EDM & other supposedly "repetitive" music genres that are missing this!

I could even understand this for Live, because of its huge push (no pun intended) to focus on the Session View, where such functionality is less required, even if it would still be useful to populate several scenes with ghosts of the same clip. But Bitwig? Released just 4 years ago? With really well developed Arranger and traditional linear workflow? I just don't get it why it's not here

Obicere · Post by **Obicere** » Fri Jun 08, 2018 5:52 am

It all takes time, it's probably on a list somewhere.

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Fri Jun 08, 2018 6:28 am

Obicere wrote:It all takes time, it's probably on a list somewhere.

Hard to disagree with this statement, but I hope that "somewhere" means "in Bitwig's office" and "list" means "to-do list"

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:29 pm

bolba wrote:You gave only one example from Studio One. It can be done via multi editing.

FLStudio ghost clips sucks.

Any other (proper) examples?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsanDRD9IoE

working with clip automations too

bolba · Post by **bolba** » Sun Jul 01, 2018 6:52 pm

I don't want to resurrect this thread, but it's not proper example. If you need ghost clips for 4 bar primitive loop, you have no right to request that feature and spend development time on that

As someone already pointed out - you can use multi-edit for that.

In any case, please, stop

I don't need more examples of such kind, thank you!

pinki · Post by **pinki** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 12:34 am

Ghost clips are scary.

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Mon Jul 02, 2018 4:32 am

bolba wrote:I don't want to resurrect this thread, but it's not proper example. If you need ghost clips for 4 bar primitive loop, you have no right to request that feature and spend development time on that
As someone already pointed out - you can use multi-edit for that.

In any case, please, stop I don't need more examples of such kind, thank you!

multi-edit doesn't work with automations like things ( Logic hasn't got modulators as Bitwig has ... ) more examples, https://ask.audio/articles/understandin ... -logic-pro

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Tue Jul 03, 2018 10:48 am

bolba wrote:I don't want to resurrect this thread, but it's not proper example. If you need ghost clips for 4 bar primitive loop, you have no right to request that feature and spend development time on that
As someone already pointed out - you can use multi-edit for that.

In any case, please, stop I don't need more examples of such kind, thank you!

Damn, you're thick... What is a proper example for you? Deadmau5 or Avicii (RIP) - or whoever it is you deem 'proper' artist - coming here and telling you they wouldn't be able to create X or Y track without alias clips?! LOL

The purpose of EXAMPLE is to showcase an idea or issue in a simple manner, that's easy to follow and understand and that anyone with a bit of imagination can extrapolate to - in this case - a full multi-track song. Sure, for a 4-bar loop that's easy to do using multi edits or just simply copying the clip 3 times, but it's not as fast or easy in a 8-minute track, where given clip is repeated dozens of times interwoven between 10 other clips each of which has its own 'alias group' .

xbitz · Post by **xbitz** » Sun Jul 08, 2018 7:02 am

Note Harmonizer device also can help ... viewtopic.php?f=259&t=507618

Bitwig

KVR Audio

No "ghost" clips??? Am I missing something here?