Bitwig

tor.helge.skei · Post by **tor.helge.skei** » Fri Oct 27, 2017 11:58 am

fl studio now has time signature changes too..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbDbza0VKoA
so, bitwig is now the only daw without it?

antic604 · Post by **antic604** » Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:34 pm

tor.helge.skei wrote:so, bitwig is now the only daw without it?

Think positive - you can now say Bitwig is exceptional, one-of-a-kind and stands-out from all the other DAWs. Without context, all those things sound positive

tor.helge.skei · Post by **tor.helge.skei** » Fri Oct 27, 2017 12:41 pm

nsq · Post by **nsq** » Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:10 pm

I can't think positive when I am unable to realize my ideas in Bitwig

Now even FL can be called a music program, while Bitwig is still not. It's a big shame.

tor.helge.skei · Post by **tor.helge.skei** » Fri Oct 27, 2017 2:53 pm

try triggering scenes live, on stage, when some parts are in 4/4 but others in 3/4, and short, spontaneous breaks in 5/4.. (with quantization set to 1 bar).. and having a full band trying to play along with you..

bolba · Post by **bolba** » Fri Oct 27, 2017 6:09 pm

Wow, as everything in FLStudio - this looks sooooo counterintuitive.

I hope Bitwig's realization of that will be much more elegant (though personally I don't need it anyway).

pdxindy · Post by **pdxindy** » Fri Oct 27, 2017 7:05 pm

bolba wrote:Wow, as everything in FLStudio - this looks sooooo counterintuitive.

I hope Bitwig's realization of that will be much more elegant (though personally I don't need it anyway).

Time signature automation and full MPE support and Bitwig will be my main DAW. Until then it is second to Logic.

shadiradio · Post by **shadiradio** » Fri Oct 27, 2017 8:55 pm

I think we are going about this the wrong way (asking for a musical feature). We have to get the Bitwig staff to personally get into different genres of music, and then want to make that music in their own product. Feature inception.

connmach · Post by **connmach** » Fri Oct 27, 2017 9:21 pm

bolba wrote:(though personally I don't need it anyway).

me neither...

Spencer Maddox · Post by **Spencer Maddox** » Fri Oct 27, 2017 10:29 pm

I don't use Bitwig for anything that requires T/S changes. Is true however that they are one of the Few Daws without it. Hopefully it comes in 2.3 so we no longer have such a dubious distinction.
Although to be honest id rather them fix the time-stretch before anything else.

TeotiGraphix · Post by **TeotiGraphix** » Fri Oct 27, 2017 11:09 pm

I know I would claw my eyes out if I had to look at that font all the time, damn, is that from the 80's?

I tired using FL years ago, uninstalled it went back to Ableton and thought I was going color blind from the themes. hehe

tor.helge.skei · Post by **tor.helge.skei** » Sat Oct 28, 2017 3:57 am

yeah, the fl studio implementation is/looks awkward, like a lot of things in fl studio..
but it would be better to have something, than nothing at all..

Taika-Kim · Post by **Taika-Kim** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 7:44 pm

Why not go all the way, I want the ability to set each track to it's own individual tempo/time signature for some crazy polyrhythms and Steve Reich gone tekkkno.

jonljacobi · Post by **jonljacobi** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 8:39 pm

Taika-Kim wrote:Why not go all the way, I want the ability to set each track to it's own individual tempo/time signature for some crazy polyrhythms and Steve Reich gone tekkkno.

That would be super sweet. And I'm all for BWS having time signatures...

But for someone to say that they can't realize their vision without integrated time signatures... Just create a track/tracks that contains your own click and use the markers to indicate where time changes occur. Or label the clips that contain the clicks.

I have to do this sometimes anyway with programs that have time signatures, because they don't allow fractional, additive, and other types that I use. This has been done for decades now and long before there was even a sniff of any sort of time signature in any DAW.

As for FL Studio. I really like what they're doing. But at some point they're just going to have to morph the playlist into a full-on track-based recorder/arranger like most other DAWs have. I'd bet that's on the agenda at least as an option. Once you're used to using Edison, it all works pretty well, but it is odd for sure.

tor.helge.skei · Post by **tor.helge.skei** » Mon Oct 30, 2017 9:15 pm

jonljacobi wrote:But for someone to say that they can't realize their vision without integrated time signatures... Just create a track/tracks that contains your own click and use the markers to indicate where time changes occur. Or label the clips that contain the clicks.

doesn't work for realtime (live, spontaneous, on stage) triggering of clips and scenes..

Bitwig

KVR Audio

time signatures (again!)