Wavetables for DUNE2/3, Blofeld, IL Harmor, Hive and Serum etc. NOW with WT Editor and Rayblaster IR files!!!

[cytospur]

Just came up with this guitarish patch using a very simple 'equation' for the wavetable editor:

https://soundcloud.com/markholt/guajira ... o-de-lucia

[yellowmix]

Heya, enjoying the wavetables.

Was wondering if there's a version of these Harmor wavetables for Serum (and anything else that accepts 2048 sample tables): viewtopic.php?p=7126973#p7126973

[cytospur]

Really pleased that you're enjoying the wavetables!

I think PietW uploaded the Serum versions here somewhere.

[ThunderHeart]

Hi Cytospur ,

I purchased your Waveform resources+ a month or two ago ,and have noticed ,and taken note of ,your thread here ,and the contributions you've made to the Dune 3 thread .

After not having dabbled in electronic music for many years ,though having been a musician for many years before [piano ,mainly ,and an early sampler ,and a few synths ,in the 80's ,Iwent on a bit of a spending spree during the recent sale times.

I must say your knowledge ,and interest/enthusiasm seem to be of a very high order ,as does the incredible value of your Wavetable Resources . Considering the thousands of wavetables ,and waveforms ,as well as a free editor ,for such a tiny price I almost feel guilty for asking you to consider even more ,but you do invite us to suggest any other formats that we'd like to see ,so here goes . First ,though ,I hope you had a lovely Christmas and New Year .

Consider me ,to all intents and purposes ,a complete novice ,so please forgive any stupid questions ,or requests .

Firstly ,I'll list the softsynths that I have ,and take it from there :

Waldorf Largo + Nave .Also ,the Lector vocoder . VPS Avenger . NI Massive [ and Massive X coming later ,as part of Komplete 12 ]. Halion 6 [inc. Anime wavetable synth] . Dune 3 . Seaweed Audio Fathom . DS Audio Diversion .

These synths are all either outright wavetable synths ,or use wavetables as part of their architecture . I assume that Dune 3 will work fine ,and I think VPS Avenger will too ,but I don't know if any of the others are "Serum compatible" .I know/think it seems to be about 2048 samples per waveform ,but that there's more to it than that .

Could you point out any of the listed synths that should work with the formats you already offer ,please ?

Also ,if you'd be willing to consider making changes to allow some of my synths which aren't compatible ,as of now ,to become so ,I'd be extremely happy ,and willing to pay ,as I think others may be ,also .

I'd most like to see Largo ,Nave and Diversion become compatible .

Warm Regards ,and thanks for all of your hard work ,and generosity ,

ThunderHeart .

[ThunderHeart]

Hi ,again ,

Mentioning DS Diversion ,reminded me that I also have DS Thorn .Now I know that Thorn is a spectral synth ,but I remember some reviews where at least superficial similarities between spectral and wavetable were pointed out . Eg : the spectrum being split into 128 bands of harmonics in Thorn ,was likened to how wavetable synths can ,and do ,split the spectrum into a number of bands ,such as 16 ,128 or 256 .

I can't help but wonder if it's feasible [and maybe not too troublesome] to somehow translate the wavetables into data that could be loaded and used by a spectral synth like Thorn . That analogue waveforms can be used very effectively in wavetable synths sparked this thought .

If this is a preposterous suggestion please forgive my ignorance .I did ask you to consider me a complete novice ,and I meant it .

With that in mind could you ,perhaps ,give a little "beginner's advice" ,or perhaps just point me to where I might find it .

I only recently realized that simply having lots of great wavetables may not be enough to even make a new sound ,ie : how to use the wavetables to make patches /presets ,or whatever you would prefer to call them . I remember finding a thread from several years ago where Ingonator was making ,and uploading sounds for Largo ,many from a Waldorf synth IIRC ,and pointing out that although Blofeld and Largo were VERY similar there was enough difference to prevent easy transfer of sounds .

He may have been talking about a PPG in this case ,though ,as I know has has mentioned both several/many times .My apolygies to both of you if I am remembering this incorrectly .

It seems to me that he ran into several problems ,and I can't remember which problem related to which synth ,but I think Largo needed a different bank of files of some type ,as well as wavetables ,in at least one set of circumstances which were mentioned .

Also ,on a different note ,I remember ,about a year ago , reading a discussion in the comments accompanying a YT video about loading images ,and formulae ,into Serum and being amazed by this .It seemed ,from what the more knowledgable gentleman was saying ,that there could be thousands of equations/formulae which yielded musically useful results .

You ,also ,blew some minds ,I think ,when you posted some incredible info in the Dune 3 thread ,which ,as I recall ,is where Ifirst noticed the link in your sig to your wavetables etc.

Anyway ,any basic advice you could give would be much appreciated .

Thanks in advance ,and for everything already given .

Best Wishes ,

ThunderHeart .

[cytospur]

Phew, a lot to get through!

First of all, thank you for your kind words and for purchasing the wavetable bundle!

I'll not tackle everything straight away (I'm at work).

AFAIU, you can't import wavetables in to Largo unfortunately.

I've had a quick look at Diversion and if you click on the waveform button, you can load the single cycle waveforms that I've uploaded to your user area.

For Thorn, AFAICS, it seems to be happiest with 16 windows of 512 sample wave files. I've knocked a few up for you to try. They are attached below. Nothing spectacular!

Please let me know if they work for you.

[ThunderHeart]

Hi ,

Thanks for the reply .

It certainly didn't even occur to me that you'd put together files or sets ,or anything else for me ,or even that you'd answer while still at work .Please don't feel any pressure ,as I most certainly didn't mean to apply any .I've been thinking of contacting you for a few weeks with some questions .Sorry I ended up asking them pretty much all at once .

Mostly I wanted to thank you for everything ,and ,perhaps ,get a little bit of a handle on the basics of waveforms vs wavetables vs patches/presets .
Hopefully I can start to work these things out for myself ,with Dune and Avenger once I get them up and going ,and figure out how to use them normally ,before starting to try to expand them .I guess I got a little carried away .

I didn't mean you to go and start looking into things ,and certainly not urgently .

Due to a lack of understanding ,it never even occured to me that eg : Largo wouldn't be able to import wavetables .Nor Diversion ,if I understand things correctly ,only single cycle waveforms .I wouldn't have the faintest idea how to guess what a waveform might sound like ,but I guess some random trial and error might yield an occaissional happy accident .Nothing wrong with that ,and it's already an incredible synth anyway ,as is Largo .I love the sound ,and power ,of both .I just naively thought that all synths that use wavetables could load new ones,since I hear it talked about often re : Serum ,Falcon ,Avenger etc.

Re : Thorn .I don't even really know what "16 windows of 512 sample wave files" means ,exactly ,but it sounds hopeful ,at least .I've got SO much to learn ,including how to get Reaper set up and running all the stuff I bought ,especially when it comes to midi ,so it'll be a while before I can try out the things you sent me ,I fear.

I'm sure that wave files for Thorn will work out to be just the start of making an already fantastic synth even better [you can probably tell that I'm a big fan of Dmitry's] ,and I can only thank you again for this ,and promise to let you know how this works out ,as soon as I can .

Thanks again for all your help and hard work .

Warmest Regards ,

ThunderHeart .

[cytospur]

Don't worry. I didn't feel pressurized by you. I needed to know the answer for myself! It doesn't take too long to knock up some test files in the correct format when it's a simple format like this!

The 16 x 512 samples means that Thorn has 16 different slots for 16 different waveforms if I understand correctly. Each waveform is 512 samples long so I can make one long wav file that contains 16 different waveforms, but flattened in to one wav file consisting of 16x512 samples = 8192 samples.

The simple way (for me) to interpret waveforms is that if there are any sharp transitions, e.g., saw or square then the sound will be brighter. If the transitions are smooth, e.g., sine or triangle then the sound will be softer. If there are increasing repetitions of the same or similar cycle then the pitch will increase.

[cytospur]

I'm just in the process of uploading a huge >1Gb update to the wavetable library for all current users. This consists of ~1500 wavetables in DUNE3/Serum, Surge, Harmor, Blofeld formats. Anything compatible with these should also work.

Some of the highlights of this update include wavetables based on what I call "Exponent Modulation". This is like phase modulation where the modulation functions exponent is itself modulated by a sine wave. Some of these also have a feedback component. Also, I have extracted impulse responses from some of my synths and applied them to analogue waveforms to give some nice filter sweeps with differing amounts of resonance.

Enjoy

[cytospur]

A little something made with the wavetables:

https://soundcloud.com/markholt/forest-hill

[cytospur]

I'm just in the process of uploading some wavetables utilising PWM of arbitrary waveforms to users' folders. The base waveforms used for these come from FM, analogue, noise snapshots, plus other sources.

The folder is called MH PWM. Enjoy!

For anyone who hasn't bought in to the lifetime update of wavetables from me, it's still only a one-off £10 to join. The library currently consists of ~3.75 Gb and includes (mostly) wavetables, plus some patches for DUNE 2 and 3, plus a whole patch bank that I used to sell for DUNE1 and some MIDI files, e.g., for the arp section of DUNE2/3.

Purchase link (PayPal button at the top): https://charlesdickens.neocities.org/

[JunSev]

I'm just in the process of uploading a huge >1Gb update to the wavetable library for all current users. This consists of ~1500 wavetables in DUNE3/Serum, Surge, Harmor, Blofeld formats. Anything compatible with these should also work.

Some of the highlights of this update include wavetables based on what I call "Exponent Modulation". This is like phase modulation where the modulation functions exponent is itself modulated by a sine wave. Some of these also have a feedback component. Also, I have extracted impulse responses from some of my synths and applied them to analogue waveforms to give some nice filter sweeps with differing amounts of resonance.

Enjoy

This will be indeed a massive update, thanks Mark

[cytospur]

Just to check that you have seen that it's in your folder already for 3 weeks!

Use the original link that I sent you to access everything. If you've lost the link then e-mail me

[JunSev]

Just to check that you have seen that it's in your folder already for 3 weeks!

Use the original link that I sent you to access everything. If you've lost the link then e-mail me

Nice

[jbraner]

Hi,

I'm new here and just bought the bundle. Finishing a beer (at the pub) and then home to download

ThunderHeart - Avenger can only load wavetables one at a time and you do it in resample mode.
It would be awesome to have these wavetables (even though I haven't seen them yet) in Avenger, but we'd need some kind of "converter".

Unless someone wants to load thousands of them one at a time